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SneakerPimp
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:03 pm
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Seriously, what's the point in putting DRM and region locks on a friggin' trailer?
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joshuafer
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:44 pm
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I wonder if there is a lot of appeal for this sort of thing, a shortened version of the original. I know they have done it with a few other anime, but not that many, makes me think they are just trying to earn some extra cash. I guess it is like the shortened version, do they cut out a lot of the fights or what ?
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Big Hed
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:17 pm
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joshuafer wrote: | I guess it is like the shortened version, do they cut out a lot of the fights or what ? |
I doubt it, the fights are what I think would pull people to see this kind of remake. I'm guessing what gets cut is all nonessential plot/character development. Yeah, wouldn't make for a very involving story, but if you want to truncate 9.5 hours of footage into 100-120 minutes and still sell tickets, something's gotta give.
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Jadress
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:08 pm
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Wait, someone set me straight. I thought the first Gurren Lagann movie was also a remake of the series. So the second movie is ANOTHER remake of the series? Do I have this right? Because if this is the case.. I think it's stupid and disappointing...
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v1cious
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:12 pm
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Jadress wrote: | Wait, someone set me straight. I thought the first Gurren Lagann movie was also a remake of the series. So the second movie is ANOTHER remake of the series? Do I have this right? Because if this is the case.. I think it's stupid and disappointing... |
the first one was only half of the series, the second one covers the rest. supposedly. it's not really a remake, and they are redoing a whole bunch of stuff.
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Faceman
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:07 pm
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Think of it as kind of like a "Best Of" album that you get from some of the more established musical artists (Springsteen, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, for example). You take the big hits and highlights and put them all together. Cut out all the murky stuff that no one really remembers or cares for. Remaster it and slap it all together with some new packaging and looks, and maybe through in a few new tracks and presto, there you have it.
It's not just for the fans, but also for people who never got into the original. It's a lot easier to watch 2 movies than a 27 episode series that you have to buy. And then it may draw the new people into buying the original series anyway.
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pparker
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:22 pm
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What I'm wondering is what is all this love for Microsoft? This is the second one I've noticed lately. Oh... the security. Right. I have to fire up a big bloatload of buggy, insecure software that forces me to download an ActiveX component (again laughable security) in order to watch a trailer "securely" that who would want to copy anyway, and no marketer in their right mind would want to restrict from copying just in case more people got to know about it.
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penguintruth
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:52 pm
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In my opinion, Gurren Lagann probably should have been a lot shorter than it was, so the movies may appeal to me more than the series proper. I felt it was very padded, especially in the second arc. I wonder if the Eureka Seven movie will be like this.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:34 pm
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penguintruth wrote: | In my opinion, Gurren Lagann probably should have been a lot shorter than it was, so the movies may appeal to me more than the series proper. I felt it was very padded, especially in the second arc. I wonder if the Eureka Seven movie will be like this. |
...considering the ridiculous amount of over-the-top content packed into the second half of the series, I'm curious as to what you feel qualified as "padding."
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penguintruth
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:58 pm
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Top Gun wrote: |
penguintruth wrote: | In my opinion, Gurren Lagann probably should have been a lot shorter than it was, so the movies may appeal to me more than the series proper. I felt it was very padded, especially in the second arc. I wonder if the Eureka Seven movie will be like this. |
...considering the ridiculous amount of over-the-top content packed into the second half of the series, I'm curious as to what you feel qualified as "padding." |
The actual plot of Gurren Lagann could have been easily executed in thirteen episodes and still have had plenty of the over-the-top fun it did. As it was, it was excessive, even for the premise and attitude. After a while, it went from delightfully absurd to agonizingly lame.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:18 pm
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penguintruth wrote: |
The actual plot of Gurren Lagann could have been easily executed in thirteen episodes and still have had plenty of the over-the-top fun it did. As it was, it was excessive, even for the premise and attitude. After a while, it went from delightfully absurd to agonizingly lame. |
To each their own, I suppose, though I'll have to make a note to thoroughly avoid the general opinions of anyone who could take "lame" away from Gurren-Lagann.
Seriously, though, you could probably make a similar statement for just about every show that's ever been made; if you're talking plot points, Cowboy Bebop's "main plot" could fit in only six or seven episodes, but I'm sure we both know that that wasn't what it was going for. At least how I see it, Gurren-Lagann was all about constantly building upon itself, increasing in scope, until it finally wound up at a near-incomprehensible scale. While you could compress the storyline down, I think it would largely destroy that build-up that the show managed so well.
More on-topic, after how I completely enjoyed the series, I don't hold out many expectations for these films, but who knows...they might manage to do something fun.
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sanosuke32
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:19 pm
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penguintruth wrote: |
Top Gun wrote: |
penguintruth wrote: | In my opinion, Gurren Lagann probably should have been a lot shorter than it was, so the movies may appeal to me more than the series proper. I felt it was very padded, especially in the second arc. I wonder if the Eureka Seven movie will be like this. |
...considering the ridiculous amount of over-the-top content packed into the second half of the series, I'm curious as to what you feel qualified as "padding." |
The actual plot of Gurren Lagann could have been easily executed in thirteen episodes and still have had plenty of the over-the-top fun it did. As it was, it was excessive, even for the premise and attitude. After a while, it went from delightfully absurd to agonizingly lame. |
Dood, please ur not talking about a whole lot of episodes here, its 24 episodes :p If you want to talk about a series that could've been shorter its Blood+. I liked the series a lot, but so much stuff could've been taken out and it could've easily have been 26 episodes and have been great.
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Big Hed
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:00 am
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Top Gun wrote: |
Seriously, though, you could probably make a similar statement for just about every show that's ever been made; if you're talking plot points, Cowboy Bebop's "main plot" could fit in only six or seven episodes, but I'm sure we both know that that wasn't what it was going for. At least how I see it, Gurren-Lagann was all about constantly building upon itself, increasing in scope, until it finally wound up at a near-incomprehensible scale. While you could compress the storyline down, I think it would largely destroy that build-up that the show managed so well.
More on-topic, after how I completely enjoyed the series, I don't hold out many expectations for these films, but who knows...they might manage to do something fun. |
I agree. I think TTGL had a lot of buildup rather than padding, and 13 episodes would've been too short. Although if that isn't your thing, then I could see why one would choose to watch the two movies instead. But personally, that's why I'm not that interested in the two movies either (although if Gainax really is redoing a bunch of stuff like v1cious said, I could well change my mind).
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penguintruth
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:29 am
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The laughable "build up" you're referring to is just increasing the scale of the battle robots with each new episode without adding much to the plot but the fates of irrelevant side characters. The first arc should have only taken five or six episodes at the most and the rest about seven or eight. I think some of the padding is what prevented a good show like Gurren Lagann from being a truly great show.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:51 am
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penguintruth wrote: | The laughable "build up" you're referring to is just increasing the scale of the battle robots with each new episode... |
That's exactly what we're referring to...and that's exactly what made the show truly great.
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