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callejero
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I have been looking for a while, but can't find a "real" list so i hope some of you could help me. I would like to know in with order u suppose to buy (and see) the ghost in the shell. I mean i know that 2gig it's after 1ssst gig, but all this other "chapters" and movies like the second one, when it's supposed to be watched, before or after 2nd gig?
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Craeyst Raygal
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Okay, Solid State Society is the one movie you should watch after the Stand Alone Complex TV series.
The two Mamoru Oshii directed movies (Ghost in the Shell, and Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence) are separate and should be viewed separately. But the SHOULD be viewed as they're landmark films. The first movie has been a major influence on action movies in general to this day. |
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Mr Adventure
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Ghost in the Shell(film) and Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence(film) are a separate series from Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex(TV), Ghost in the Shell: SAC 2nd Gig(TV), and Ghost in the Shell: SAC Solid State Society (Film).
Personally I'd watch the original Ghost in the Shell film first, then watch the TV series and SSS in order. Innocence, I didn't care for enough to ever recomend its watching. |
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Zin5ki
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By this do you recommend both films? If so I commend you- it's one of those opinions I hold which I find hard to come by amongst others. |
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Sophisticat
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I recommend this order :
- Movie 1 - SAC - 2nd GiG - Innocence - Solid State Society Though reading the GitS manga before all that, then GitS 2 manga after all the anime makes for Pro status. Add in GitS 1.5 : Man-Machine Interface as the cherry topping the cake. |
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Mushi-Man
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From what I understand the Movies and the series are two separate stories. Watch 1st then 2nd gig. The movies go Ghost in the Shell, Innocence, Solid State Society. Also I would suggest watching the extra movies that go along with the seasons (Laughing Man for 1st gig and Individual Eleven for 2nd gig, I liked them).
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Murasakisuishou
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Solid State Society is a SAC movie and has nothing to do with the Oshii films. Just so the OP is clear on that. I've also heard it said that the original GitS movies fit chronologically at the end of Solid State Society, but I personally watched both of them before getting into the SAC universe. Most people I've met who've watched the original movies after SAC tend to be very underwhelmed by them (the animation isn't as slick-looking, they're not nearly as much fun, the dub sucks, etc.), so if you want to actually enjoy the first movie (and Innocence, I suppose, although the only thing really to be appreciated there is the art), watch it before the series. |
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Kimiko_0
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Yes, the best viewing order I think is
- GitS - GitS: Innocence (or just leave this out; it's not very good anyway) - GitS: SAC - GitS: SAC 2nd Gig - GitS: SAC Solid State Society The first two movies are technically a sort of 'alternate continuity' or something to the SAC series, but I found the first movie to be a good introduction to GitS. The second movie is buried under a load of philosophical jabber and long 3D CGI sequences. What's left isn't really worth the time. |
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thee_mateo
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Ghost in the Shell SAC is a prequel to the manga and movies.
Why? Because at the end of 2nd gig, Tachikomas are replaced by Fuchikomas who are in the manga. Fuchikomas were never seen in the movies. Also during SAC you are introduced to many characters that play a role in manga, for instance the Jameson robot CEO. He was introduced as a hardworking CEO of his robot company and in the manga he is on the run as a criminal. Here is my chronology: GHOST IN THE SHELL : Stand Alone Complex 1st GiG GHOST IN THE SHELL : Stand Alone Complex 2nd GiG GHOST IN THE SHELL : Stand Alone Complex Solid State Society Manga Ghost in the shell Man Machine Interface Human Error Processor The two movies: GITS and Innocence are just abreviated versions of the first two manga series. |
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dtm42
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I confess that at first I was going to report you for necro-posting, but your post is actually quite informative, so I decided not to. Good on you; most necro-posts tend to be awful. |
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One Vorlon
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electricmidnight
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I've seen this happen with many different series and even in video games. I find it best to just take the movies, manga and series as they are.
SAC is a re-imagining of the GITS world. The series and one movie that go with it is comprised of elements from the the first two movies and the books. The movie duo is a re-telling of the original GITS manga. The first one started as such, then it went into the direction of the directors POV. Oshii left out some elements from the comics because he felt it would be better for his vision of the films. The original manga is such. It stands as Shirow's original story and the premise for the stories found in the series and the movies. I watched the movie first. Then I got into the manga. Then the series and when Innocence came out I watched that. I'd watch it in the order of the movies first. Then the series. But since I am lazy I don't have all the time in the world to watch the whole series back to back so the OVa's work as well, then SSS. Since not many people like to read now a days unless its been made into a major motion picture. I would suggest the manga's at your own pace. |
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Thanatos01s2
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First off I say to each his own, believe what you want.
I personally feel the Ghost in the Shell is the best anime ever made, and I have seen A LOT of anime. I am not a big fan of the Oshii films, or the music from the original film and innocence. I love everything about SAC and SAC 2nd Gig, not to mention SSS is absolutely incredible. In my opinion I like to follow the logic of the major, Batou, and Togusa, I also think that the tachikoma's and fuchikoma's can help with the linear story progression. The order is: Ghost in the Shell the original movie Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex 2nd GIG Ghost in the Shell Innocence Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex Solid State Society In the first movie Togusa states that he is VERY new to the team and asks the major why they pulled him into section 9. So that is when the primary team was completed. Then follow the two SAC movies Next is Innocence, this falls here because this is where the story revolves around Batou searching for the Major after she leaves. At one point in the movie when Togusa and Batou are placed as teammates by the chief, Togusa says "I know I can't fill in for the major as Batou's partner." Then in SSS the major comes back and Togusa is now the team lead of Section 9 as Batou denied the position from the chief. To me it is a fairly simple progression. Not to mention Togusa is also stated as having upgrades to his cyber brain and body. and if you remember correctly togusa is pretty much all human throughout everything BUT Solid State Society. If you prefer to look at the technology of the think-tanks, I also believe that fits what I have stated above. In the first movie section 9 has no think-tanks, in SAC they have the tachikomas, in 2nd gig they have the tachikoma's but at the very end move on to the fuchikoma's. Then in Innocence there is no presence of think-tanks, simply because the story was about Batou and they were not needed. If there were think-tanks they would have been fuchikoma's. In Solid State Society section 9 uses fuchikoma's but at the end the major brings in Max and Musashi and the think-tanks, (which are tachikoma's) she reconstructed through the net after they destroyed themselves to save Japan at the end of 2nd Gig. Thus this follows the order I have suggested above. I believe this makes sense, but as I said to begin with, to each his own! Fun fact, when it comes to the names of the Think-tanks, they derive their names from Japanese blades. A fuchi is a part of the handle and the tachi is a long katana Last edited by Thanatos01s2 on Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:52 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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thee_mateo
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I agree with One Vorlon that SSS should be last. But where would the new GITS movie fit that is being made by Spielberg and Dreamworks? Will the new GITS live action be a watered down version? I believe that a retelling of the story would be boring and that they should rather extend the story further in this new medium.
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Thanatos01s2
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Hollywood will screw it up as always, (resident evil) I would not consider it falling anywhere into the story progression of the anime. The live action truly will be a stand alone (no pun intended) in the series |
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