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Anime Expo 2008 - ADV Films

What im getting at is why did he blame fansubs then put NHK on fansubs???

Do i go out and blame some1 who i dunno broke my car window only to then give them a pat on the back 2 months later?

What were the excuses given in the past week or two about volumes of NHK/Kanon not shipping? First, "replicator issues" (untrue) then "licensing issues"? (Again, this same sort of uncertainty also occurred back in February.) If these titles "went with Sojitz" as stated in the panel (which IS true, obviously), they knew quite a while ago that they wouldn't be publishing future volumes of these series. This did not all happen this week folks.

The excuse about Blu-ray; "Japan doesn't want Blu-rays of those titles before they're out in Japan" -- all you have to do is look at what FUNimation is doing/has done. They've put out several Dragon Ball Z movies on BRD now that aren't out on Blu-ray in Japan.

The term of the license for Newtype USA did not "end" -- as was stated in the panel and as John Ledford surely knows. It wasn't scheduled to be up for renewal until the end of 2008. Kadokawa pulled the license early. It was not an unsuccessful venture, and in fact was one of the only ways ADV had left to market/advertise its own titles after the shutdown of ADVocates ('because they didn't have to pay for ads or episode placement on the DVD). It was quite a valuable asset to the company and was one of the few areas that'd been untouched by layoffs/paycuts in recent years. With its DVD business going in the toilet, ADV just wanted to squeeze more money out of the bad contract they'd signed to get the Newtype license in the first place. To that end they went to Kadokawa threatening to cease production of the magazine immediately unless they'd renegotiate the terms sooner. Instead, Kadokawa pulled the plug. Even as they gave Kadokawa that ultimatum, ADV was under the deluded impression that they could do their own magazine to replace it, not have to spend any money promoting it and get to keep the same money NTUSA was bringing in for themselves. This, however, is not how publishing works -- and you especially don't want to have to replace an established, successful brand with something completely new that lacked the most popular features of the old one.

I can't believe they're still telling people the Eva movie is coming. What a joke.

It's ridiculous that Ledford/Greenfield don't know about the current state of their web site. Or that it's been up/down for MONTHS. If you're in charge of a company and have a web site whose sole purpose is to sell your products, you would care if it was down. You'd certainly know of the problems that ADV's site has been having in recent months. THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS.

"The people who run the manga are not here." Ledford's the CEO of the company. He's sitting right there. He doesn't know what's going on? Very Happy That's B.S.

I must agree to what the "ex-Executive Editor of Newtype USA" is saying here.

Tekkon Kinkreet also has been released in the States, but not in Japan.

Wow, talk about being disgruntled. Of course I knew CJ and I can say that he was never in on any of the discussions between John Ledford and the Japanese so he really wouldn't have any clue what the reality was concerning NT or ADV. From what I knew of him and his attitude while at ADV, he always seemed unhappy there so I really can't see his posting as anything more than sour grapes. You know, I feel sorry for the guy but I have to say, he really doesn't know what he is talking about.

Wow, talk about being disgruntled. Of course I knew CJ and I can say that he was never in on any of the discussions between John Ledford and the Japanese so he really wouldn't have any clue what the reality was concerning NT or ADV. From what I knew of him and his attitude while at ADV, he always seemed unhappy there so I really can't see his posting as anything more than sour grapes. You know, I feel sorry for the guy but I have to say, he really doesn't know what he is talking about.

That's because FUNimation does most of Toei's grunt-work.

They've been busy trying to deal with Sojitz.

He had different divisions, so it does kind of make sense.

Actually, he's the reason I must disagree, since he's obviously disgruntled.

I'm kinda concluding here that this forum is just so full of anti-ADV Funimation fanboyism of naive DBZ fans and people disatisfied with ADV just praying that they dissapear and that Funimation would become a monopoly and own everything with thier whole reason without any excuse.

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TornadoTatsumaki wrote:

ADV stuff

Let me say first that I hope ADV will come back as strong as before. I hope everything they're telling us will come to pass. As others have said, they've been hit some things that have been out of their control, and are adapting to it.

But I'm not ready to bake a cake for them yet. Call me skeptical, but I want to see release dates for the new titles they are pursuing, and a resumption of Yotsuba&!, before I'll start celebrating ADV's return. The two in the panel said the company might have an announcement by Otakon, so I'll hold on to my skepticism until then and see what the company produces. Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst.

Tekkon Kinkreet also has been released in the States, but not in Japan.

That's because there's a limited market for TK in Japan, and especially one with a gaijin director of a Japanese production.