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Thulebox
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 Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:07 pm
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Huh. I went into this show with low expectations and found myself really enjoying it. Guess I'll be in the minority.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:23 pm
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I had an overall fun time with the show and enjoyed Yuki a lot as a character, but that really was a kind of non-ending of an ending.
I mean beyond the fact that we get a "mutual confession" that ends with Hitoyoshi feeling like he got rejected and familyzoned while Yuki is slowly realizing true romantic feelings...which feels like it would be developed in an episode 13 that's not happening.
And that's not even getting into all the multiple sub-plots that are still unresolved (did Grace find out anything about Yuki's sister? What happened to Yuki's sister? Was she the girl Hitoyoshi confessed too? What happened to Yuki's master and why did she change employment? Why did Hitoyoshi's mom leave him?).
| TheReticent wrote: | | That's one of the things that brought the show down for me as well. Yuki being a literal killer is not treated with any seriousness by anyone in the cast, nor is it ever used in the opposite way for absurd comedy or black humor. It's just kinda there, neither dramatic nor funny.
Yuki herself also feels contradictory, and not in a good, character-study way. She's supposedly a skilled, acrobatic assassin, yet completely clumsy. She's a cold-hearted killer, yet is a wide eyed, puppy-hugging softie who weeps over sauce. You can't have it both ways without some seriously clever writing, and the show never took the time to do that.
I wanted to like this show, and it could've been a decent wish-fulfillment indulgence, but the longer it went, the more the whole thing feels like flavor text over the reenactment of a well-produced, but generic high school romance. |
I don't know if it's impossible to have it both ways because I feel like Yuki's upbringing of being a normal girl who was forcibly morphed into a cold-blooded assassin does decently explain why she's awkward and not as adept at doing normal things and the whole series has been about her letting out her true personality/feelings out and becoming human again by experiencing life outside being an assassin.
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Thesarum
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:41 am
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| MFrontier wrote: |
| TheReticent wrote: | | That's one of the things that brought the show down for me as well. Yuki being a literal killer is not treated with any seriousness by anyone in the cast, nor is it ever used in the opposite way for absurd comedy or black humor. It's just kinda there, neither dramatic nor funny.
Yuki herself also feels contradictory, and not in a good, character-study way. She's supposedly a skilled, acrobatic assassin, yet completely clumsy. She's a cold-hearted killer, yet is a wide eyed, puppy-hugging softie who weeps over sauce. You can't have it both ways without some seriously clever writing, and the show never took the time to do that.
I wanted to like this show, and it could've been a decent wish-fulfillment indulgence, but the longer it went, the more the whole thing feels like flavor text over the reenactment of a well-produced, but generic high school romance. |
I don't know if it's impossible to have it both ways because I feel like Yuki's upbringing of being a normal girl who was forcibly morphed into a cold-blooded assassin does decently explain why she's awkward and not as adept at doing normal things and the whole series has been about her letting out her true personality/feelings out and becoming human again by experiencing life outside being an assassin. |
Yeah, it's basically the Yor Forger model. It's not that she's "cold hearted" so much as her emotional development was so stunted by child assassin training that she never really developed a proper understanding of what she was doing. She just did as she was told. And later, when she started to realise, she wanted to stop and become a "normal" girl. It's not exactly an original backstory, nor the best version of it, but at least by popular fiction rules it's not a fundamental contradiction.
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Thesarum
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:41 am
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| MFrontier wrote: |
| TheReticent wrote: | | That's one of the things that brought the show down for me as well. Yuki being a literal killer is not treated with any seriousness by anyone in the cast, nor is it ever used in the opposite way for absurd comedy or black humor. It's just kinda there, neither dramatic nor funny.
Yuki herself also feels contradictory, and not in a good, character-study way. She's supposedly a skilled, acrobatic assassin, yet completely clumsy. She's a cold-hearted killer, yet is a wide eyed, puppy-hugging softie who weeps over sauce. You can't have it both ways without some seriously clever writing, and the show never took the time to do that.
I wanted to like this show, and it could've been a decent wish-fulfillment indulgence, but the longer it went, the more the whole thing feels like flavor text over the reenactment of a well-produced, but generic high school romance. |
I don't know if it's impossible to have it both ways because I feel like Yuki's upbringing of being a normal girl who was forcibly morphed into a cold-blooded assassin does decently explain why she's awkward and not as adept at doing normal things and the whole series has been about her letting out her true personality/feelings out and becoming human again by experiencing life outside being an assassin. |
Yeah, it's basically the Yor Forger model. It's not that she's "cold hearted" so much as her emotional development was so stunted by child assassin training that she never really developed a proper understanding of what she was doing. She just did as she was told. And later, when she started to realise, she wanted to stop and become a "normal" girl. It's not exactly an original backstory, nor the best version of it, but at least by popular fiction rules it's not a fundamental contradiction.
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