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EP. REVIEW: Orb: On the Movements of the Earth




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Daidan12



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:30 pm Reply with quote
I really loved Rafal's last conversation:
Rafal: - "Why should I fear death? If I am, then death is not. If Death is, then I am not. Why
should I fear that which can only exist when I do not?" by Epicurus
"To fear death is nothing other than to think oneself wise when one is not; for it is to
think one knows what one does not know. No man knows whether death may not
even turn out to be the greatest blessing for a human being; and yet people fear it
as if they knew for certain that it is the greatest of evil." by Socrates
"Life is long if you know how to use it." by Seneca
Nowak: "Those words are from Heathens from more tan 200 years ago! Their words would
not be of use to you"
Rafal: "Their words can move hearts, they moved me. I think the inspiration gifted by
others is something more precious than life, I want their words to live on."
Nowak: "You are giving up your life just for some words. That's insanity"
Rafal: "Maybe, but I believe I will call it Love"

It's the perfect way to kick the story into high gear. I loved the manga and I am extremely happy that it got a high profile adaptation, both the OP & ED are great.
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Pino_the_pink_rabbit



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:29 pm Reply with quote
At the moment I am disappointed with the way the anime shows the realities of the Middle Ages and later the Renaissance. Most people in those times could not write and read, here however it seems that even city guards and boys raised by the church could. Another issue is paper, an expensive and desirable commodity in those times, Rafal uses his notebook and tears out pages as if he had an excess of them. In general I do not judge the story presented in the anime and manga (it is fiction), however I think that since the author set the action in Europe in a specific time frame, it would be necessary to take care to properly describe the realities of those times. These are just two examples of many that can be seen in the first three episodes. I am afraid that the next episodes will be similar.
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Nemu Asahi



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:01 am Reply with quote
I don't mind all the things that are not accurate because it's a fiction, not a documentary. It's a manga, not a live TV series.

I'm writing a police plot 30 years in the future in a dystopian Japan. I take liberties with the reality in order to write a better manga scenario, more engaging to future readers and I think that it's a good choice the author of Chi (orb) made. The most important thing is to write an appealing story to the readers for them to enjoy the manga.

If accuracy needs to be lower, so be it, up to a point though. What point might you say? The point where a lot of readers stop enjoying the manga and stop reading it.
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Daidan12



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:14 pm Reply with quote
Pino_the_pink_rabbit wrote:
However I think that since the author set the action in Europe in a specific time frame, it would be necessary to take care to properly describe the realities of those times. These are just two examples of many that can be seen in the first three episodes. I am afraid that the next episodes will be similar.

The author was 22 when he started this work, I would cut him some slack. He gets a little better on understanding the realities of the time later on the story but overall he will always put emotion/story over historical accuracy.
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writerpatrick



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:56 pm Reply with quote
There does seem to be some confusion about what was happening at the time. For one thing, there were multiple inquisitions. While the Spanish Inquisition was known to use torture, Poland doesn't seem to have used it, at least not to any significant degree. The Inquisitions were more legal in nature.
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Eilavel



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:04 pm Reply with quote
I think the fundamental problem is it wants to paint what is many of us in the modern day, the post-enlightenment materialist, as the victims of historical religious persecution. Which has been true in times and places, but the counter-reformation catholic church was more about repressing religious wrongthink. Its victims were most often actually more religious than average. But thats harder to either win empathy with or build a progressive narrative of conflict in history around.

Still, it means the anti repression message isn't totally misplaced. And its not a bad message to have.

Personally, for my own enjoyment I can overlook ahistorical elements and enjoy a "period flavored" show. But, a significant netflix release about a historical period is going to set a huge number of peoples understanding of what happened, which is a bit unfortunate.
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benzone



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:30 pm Reply with quote
Eilavel wrote:
I think the fundamental problem is it wants to paint what is many of us in the modern day, the post-enlightenment materialist, as the victims of historical religious persecution. Which has been true in times and places, but the counter-reformation catholic church was more about repressing religious wrongthink. Its victims were most often actually more religious than average. But thats harder to either win empathy with or build a progressive narrative of conflict in history around.

Still, it means the anti repression message isn't totally misplaced. And its not a bad message to have.

Personally, for my own enjoyment I can overlook ahistorical elements and enjoy a "period flavored" show. But, a significant netflix release about a historical period is going to set a huge number of peoples understanding of what happened, which is a bit unfortunate.


No one expects accuracy from anime. Even more so when the setting isn't Japan and the subjects aren't Japanese. More still when the people, places and institutions aren't named. Also, narratives where very devout people get oppressed because they have the wrong religion from the majority are all over the place and gets tons of empathy. Instead, what you actually don't see much fiction about is state repression, unless said states are monarchist or fascist.
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