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ADV Films [2008-03-23]

Personally, Williams is beginning to question how much value is left in both the series that Geneon dropped mid-release

Looking at the bigger, industry-wide picture, in Williams' view, both the sheer number of anime DVDs that companies are releasing, and the typical price points will have to decrease. while, as the Japanese anime production and licensing firms become fully aware of American market conditions, licensing prices will begin dropping.

Oh and I'm dissapointed they won't be pursuing Blu-ray. Utawaremono (however it's spelled) got a Blu-ray release.

To be honest, ADV shouldn't have said they were highly interested in going into HD releases if they actually aren't. iTunes and Xbox Live Marketplace... great...

The Utawarerumono BD already include English dub and sub. I doubt that Japanese company will let ADV sell this one in NA because they fear reverse import (FYI Japan and NA use the same BD region)

melonbread wrote:

Oh and I'm dissapointed they won't be pursuing Blu-ray. Utawaremono (however it's spelled) got a Blu-ray release. To be honest, ADV shouldn't have said they were highly interested in going into HD releases if they actually aren't. iTunes and Xbox Live Marketplace... great...

The Utawarerumono BD already include English dub and sub. I doubt that Japanese company will let ADV sell this one in NA because they fear reverse import (FYI Japan and NA use the same BD region)

To lower licensing fees is to refuse to pay much money to Japanese creators, you know that?

The Japanese recoup much of their production costs with their own industry. Anything sold to other countries is just extra.

nuaythebest wrote:

melonbread wrote: Oh and I'm dissapointed they won't be pursuing Blu-ray. Utawaremono (however it's spelled) got a Blu-ray release. To be honest, ADV shouldn't have said they were highly interested in going into HD releases if they actually aren't. iTunes and Xbox Live Marketplace... great... The Utawarerumono BD already include English dub and sub. I doubt that Japanese company will let ADV sell this one in NA because they fear reverse import (FYI Japan and NA use the same BD region)

I don't see why. Bandai Visual released the Yukikaze BD boxset soonish after the Japanese release. I know all the ins and outs as to why or why that's the case, and I'm fully aware that Japan and America are the same reason. The Japanese could quite easily just let ADV sell it in America for the exact same price, reverse importation wouldn't be a problem then. If it was going to be cheaper here, the Japanese companies would not let ADV put in a few of the extras to make the American release worse than the Japanese - as they did with Yukikaze taking the figurine out of the box.

melonbread wrote:

nuaythebest wrote: melonbread wrote: Oh and I'm dissapointed they won't be pursuing Blu-ray. Utawaremono (however it's spelled) got a Blu-ray release. To be honest, ADV shouldn't have said they were highly interested in going into HD releases if they actually aren't. iTunes and Xbox Live Marketplace... great... The Utawarerumono BD already include English dub and sub. I doubt that Japanese company will let ADV sell this one in NA because they fear reverse import (FYI Japan and NA use the same BD region) I don't see why. Bandai Visual released the Yukikaze BD boxset soonish after the Japanese release. I know all the ins and outs as to why or why that's the case, and I'm fully aware that Japan and America are the same reason. The Japanese could quite easily just let ADV sell it in America for the exact same price, reverse importation wouldn't be a problem then. If it was going to be cheaper here, the Japanese companies would not let ADV put in a few of the extras to make the American release worse than the Japanese - as they did with Yukikaze taking the figurine out of the box.

In that case, ADV have to pay a license fee for a BD release. The question is how much can they sell it with that high price? The recent incident that BV postponed many of their releases(which use the same price model like R2) might answer this question well.

It's impossible to say without access to the figures from the companies, and that's the bottom line. However, if economics and history have taught us anything, when a market goes global and begins to see regular income from global markets, then their business grows as a result and becomes more dependent on that global market. It's safe to say that after 10 years of regular licensing of their product by the R1 industry that a lot of their growth since then was funded by that and would collapse as a result of its loss.

melonbread wrote:

The Japanese recoup much of their production costs with their own industry. Anything sold to other countries is just extra.

That runs against everything I ever heard in regards to the R2 industry and the R1 industry.

All of this is distracting from what should be the biggest point of that panel: a satisfying explanation for what happened to ADV in February, and why TTGL and Sgt. Frog are still off-schedule. Hopefully that will lessen the heat some fans have been giving ADV for the delays and further reassure the ones that are still antsy.

The comments about the unfinished Geneon series are disturbing, however. I have to think there's still a good amount of fan interest in seeing When They Cry finished, and I'd certainly like to see someone pick up the rest of Story of Saiunkoku.