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Asrialys
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 5:50 pm
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MarshalBanana wrote: |
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MarshalBanana wrote: | Who was the very first Waifu? The original Waifu. |
Lum?
lol I don't know. I'm not familiar with stuff pre-2000s, but she was the first character to pop in my head. |
You've been a member since 06, and back then Anime took longer to come get released overseas, did you not start off watching 90s Anime? |
Whatever was on Toonami, Adult Swim, Kids WB, and Fox Kids. And that was technically very late 90s and mostly 2000s. I never branched out from what was on TV till like mid-2000s.
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 7:13 pm
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My #1 anime/manga waifu is Lucy Heartfilia ("Fairy Tail"). I also quite the NaLu fan.
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RGaspar
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 9:16 pm
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As the article is quick to point out, I feel more attraction to my waifus when they are more than just a pretty face/body. I have to like their personalities or something else about them.
Yor is a perfect example, my favorite waifu in Spy X Family, a series with a good bunch of them. She's gorgeous but also clumsy at home and super skilled when it comes to assassinations.
And with Frieren, it amused me that everyone and their mother was losing it for Übel but I was all about the titular character. Give me more of those beautiful eyes and aloofness any time of the day.
Anyway, waifu wars are as varied as shipping wars. There are as many combinations and types of them as people watching the shows.
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Key
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 10:05 pm
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RGaspar wrote: | And with Frieren, it amused me that everyone and their mother was losing it for Übel but I was all about the titular character. Give me more of those beautiful eyes and aloofness any time of the day. |
I have also been amused by how strongly Übel has come onto that scene in the last month or so (since, personality-wise, she's anything but an ideal), but I can understand the appeal. Was always impressed with how the series could portray her with a mischievous smile that carried just a hint of danger without twisting into caricature. Dearly hope to see someone cosplay her at Anime Central this coming weekend.
But if you're including male characters in the waifu category, then the ultimate waifu from Frieren is unquestionably Himmel.
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mrsticky005
Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 10:54 pm
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MarshalBanana wrote: | Who was the very first Waifu? The original Waifu. |
Does a waifu have to be from an anime?
What about Blondie Bumstead nee Boopadoop from the comic strip Blondie?
Olive Oyl from the comic strip Thimble Theatre aka Popeye
(Olive actually predates Popeye)
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MarshalBanana
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 9:53 am
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mrsticky005 wrote: |
MarshalBanana wrote: | Who was the very first Waifu? The original Waifu. |
Does a waifu have to be from an anime?
What about Blondie Bumstead nee Boopadoop from the comic strip Blondie?
Olive Oyl from the comic strip Thimble Theatre aka Popeye
(Olive actually predates Popeye) |
Maybe the original waifu, was pre-code Betty Boop.
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MartinWisse
Joined: 22 May 2022
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 12:03 pm
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Quote: | And I wouldn't say I'm an expert, by any means, on any era, but I have watched a fair bit of anime from the 70s, 80s and 90s... and there aren't many female characters that seem to have dominated the cultural zeitgeist quite as much as Lum, prior to Lum. |
Lum was so popular for so long that even though Urusay Yatsura never really got a release in the West at the time, she was still omnipresent in wider fandom; she was all over the Diamond Comics Previews merchandise section all through the eighties frex.
You could certainly make a case for her being the first real waifu not just because of that popularity but especially because of the context in which she became popular. The heroine of an romcom series that everybody in Japan watched, at a time when otakudom had first firmly established itself, who had the sort of relationship with the protagonist that made it easier for you to insert yourself into. If Ataru doesn't appreciate her, I will, that sort of thing.
Somewhat similar to Rem in fact, also somebody rejected by the protagonist and therefore "up for grabs".
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Top Gun
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 3:43 pm
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The whole "waifu" thing has never done much for me. I've liked many female characters during my time as an anime fan, but I've never really felt that sort of personal attachment to them. Plus the term has these connotations of, well, I guess "possessiveness" for lack of a better word that I find kind of creepy. The closest character that comes to mind is Holo from Spice and Wolf: she's intelligent, witty, and incredibly self-assured, all traits I find inherently attractive. Most of the time my tastes lie with female characters who can, as the meme so glibly puts it, "actually just kill me." Y'know, the type who, if you called them "my waifu," would smile at you, rip out your skull, and then serve you breakfast in it.
All of that aside, did the columnists really just cite a Yu Yu Hakusho character that wasn't Uncontested Absolute Best Girl Botan? For shame!
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 11:42 pm
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I have tended to be a bit more literal in interpreting and reserving the title "waifu" for a female character well suited to be the wife of the protagonist, especially, if I relate to the protag, as in "if I were the protag, I would marry them" and not just the most charming/likable/attractive character in a particular show. Thus, Winry in FMA or Misaki in NHK would be my picks as example.
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Takkun4343
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 5:47 pm
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I'm far from the type to take "waifuism" seriously, but if there's a female character I particularly like in an affectionate sort of way, they're getting the "waifu" designation. Oddly enough, every character I've "waifu'd" thus far falls into one of two categories/occupations: dominatrix (Itsue Aasu, Midnight) or food service (Amil Manaflare, Sumika Tachibana).
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Juno016
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 11:10 pm
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Top Gun wrote: | The whole "waifu" thing has never done much for me. I've liked many female characters during my time as an anime fan, but I've never really felt that sort of personal attachment to them. Plus the term has these connotations of, well, I guess "possessiveness" for lack of a better word that I find kind of creepy. The closest character that comes to mind is Holo from Spice and Wolf: she's intelligent, witty, and incredibly self-assured, all traits I find inherently attractive. Most of the time my tastes lie with female characters who can, as the meme so glibly puts it, "actually just kill me." Y'know, the type who, if you called them "my waifu," would smile at you, rip out your skull, and then serve you breakfast in it. |
A friend once told me, paraphrased, "I don't like the idea of waifus. It sounds like it objectifies women and strips their character down to nothing." and at a later date, said "I just want Major Kusanagi to tackle me and twist me like a pretzel." and my response was, "I'm sorry to break it to you, but that's called a 'waifu'." I see the "waifu" thing as a silly pop culture phenomenon where people explore their fantasies, interests, and desires healthily through fiction instead of with real people, many of whom don't want to be sexualized. You could maybe argue that the fictional behavior reinforces the real-life behavior, but I feel most people who already understand the difference are fine, and most people who don't are not going to change their behavior anyway. Enjoy what you want.
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Zoltan Kakler
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 4:30 am
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Juno016 wrote: | A friend once told me, paraphrased, "I don't like the idea of waifus. It sounds like it objectifies women and strips their character down to nothing." and at a later date, said "I just want Major Kusanagi to tackle me and twist me like a pretzel." and my response was, "I'm sorry to break it to you, but that's called a 'waifu'." I see the "waifu" thing as a silly pop culture phenomenon where people explore their fantasies, interests, and desires healthily through fiction instead of with real people, many of whom don't want to be sexualized. You could maybe argue that the fictional behavior reinforces the real-life behavior, but I feel most people who already understand the difference are fine, and most people who don't are not going to change their behavior anyway. Enjoy what you want. |
That's what happens when people over drink their "respect women juice". People get so afraid of how they might be perceived they try to hide away and deny basic human instincts and desires. Some people need to learn it's perfectly okay to be attracted to women. And not just the socially acceptable ones like tall girls or muscle girls either that people always give as safe answers. Feel free to be attracted to big bosoms, petite figures, and all kinds of things. I think people would be happier if they were more honest with themselves.
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ninjamitsuki
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 5:41 pm
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The term "my bishie, not yours" predates "mai waifu".
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