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SHD
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Oh I agree, the reason why to me it's a small grumble (so far) is mainly because I'm not sure if we are supposed to feel like we missed something, or not. I can't help feeling that they're holding something back. If not, then yes, it's an issue. I guess we'll only find out in April. (In any case, though, I just like the show too much, so honestly, I'm willing to suspend my disbelief... to a certain extent.  )
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q_3
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I'm pretty confident we're waiting on much more information about Suletta. The theory that spoiler[she isn't Eri from the prologue] is only getting stronger, and if that's so then there are a number of possible explanations to bridge the gaps in this episode.
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NeverConvex
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That's what I'm hoping as well; there's time for them to give us some kind of post-hoc explanation that could still be very satisfying, so hopefully we'll get that in season 2. It will be a significant flaw if the show doesn't realize how implausible the character turn looks, though.
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Kuzu
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Real Gundam starts now, see you guys in April.
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Moontei
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Alright just finished the season 1 finale after binging the rest of the show the past week.
Was actually laughing when Guel spoiler[took out his father. At this point dude is practically a meme. He just can’t catch a break can he lulz] also that final scene was absolutely golden spoiler[SPLAT like a mosquito]. Surprised to see that spoiler[Delling actually made it through the whole ordeal]. My only real complaint would be spoiler[is there an actual reason both of the new Gundams have to be piloted by girls (other than to drive home the "witch" theme). Suletta, sure, but did the earthian terrorists really have no better pilots other than 2 kids?] Overall, I've really enjoyed season 1 so far and can't wait to see season 2 come April. With the ending showing this as season 1, I'm wondering if the show will only have 2 cours total instead of the usual 4 cour episode count. |
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dm
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Ha ha ha ha ho ho ho (gasp). Gosh, did I get that one wrong. Well, that was an ending that left me eager for ... April? We have to wait until April? I have to admit that I laughed at the thickness of the pathos being laid by spoiler[Guel killing his father, though when his father suited up, I assumed it would be Suletta who did the deed,] until Guel started his white knight routine. As Suletta arrived to rescue Miorine, I thought, "Gosh, she got through the battle without killing anyone, that's a relief." Glad to see spoiler[Sophie will be returning for more.] I rather like the Earthian witches, even if Sophie grabs all the limelight. It's an interesting touch for them to fret about kinetic debris. It makes a lot of sense in planetary orbit -- but are these things in planetary orbit? Where is all this taking place? Earth orbit? Some Lagrange point? Asteroid belt? Open space? In open space that stuff will just disperse until it's a million miles between each bullet casing, spent shell, and bit of shrapnel. Does anyone else think that Gendou and Prospera (gosh, that's Mamiko Noto? I had no idea) would make a great couple? ("Get in the robot, Shinji. Run, gain one, go forward, gain two." "I see what you mean, stepmom!") |
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TJ_Kat
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I have to agree that the post credit stuff just didn't seem to fit. spoiler[Squashing the guy I can see. The fight was over, so Suletta's combat brain was shut off and her air-headed clumsy brain was in charge. It's not like Suletta isn't prone to overreacting without thinking, so her thinking, 'OMG Miorine is in trouble!' and splatting the guy makes a certain amount of sense. It was her detachment from it after the fact that felt out of place. Even if you accept that Suletta is an extreme simpleton that can go to 'murder is okay if you're protecting someone, because mama said so' at the flip of a switch it's the fact that it didn't even register to her that she fell down in a puddle of gore and the hand she reached out to Miorine was covered in that same gore that doesn't add up. There's a disconnect there somewhere and I'm hoping it's a deliberate part of the story, and not a case of poor writing. It's frustrating that we have to wait until April to find out which it is.]
I would argue what you describe is the more dangerous scenario. Shell casings widely dispersed would be undetectable until something ran into them. Regardless of where the setting takes place, they would still be debris in a region where ships travel at high speeds. Of course I think that all rings hollow since they're blowing things up left and right. That would cause far more debris than some shell casings. But what I find most interesting is that it kind of justifies the school setting. The school and the duels serve as something of a proxy war that would limit the scale of conflicts and prevent space from being littered with debris. |
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dm
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I'll echo the reservations about the post-credit scene. Something weird is up with Suletta. spoiler[Do you suppose we're meeting Eri, still age four, somehow?]
The concern for kinetic debris may explain why everyone uses beam weapons and light-sabers --- the beams don't leave a cloud of shell-casings behind. Do the beam weapons cause explosions? or do they just poke holes or slice through stuff, leaving large, readily scavenged chunks (aside from a mist of molten metal expanding outward from the impact point). If they're not in a planetary orbit (though no doubt in a solar orbit), the shell casings are going to just disperse --- in a week, there will be one shell casing every billion cubic miles. That makes finding one to collide with pretty hard. If, instead, they're at a Lagrange point, the shell casings and shrapnel are going to hang out in the Lagrange point, mostly. So, yes, worrying about litter is important. The spent shells, if they don't hit anything, are going to just keep going in a straight(ish) line. They probably don't have a planetary or solar escape velocity, so they're still in orbit, but there's nothing keeping them in the Lagrange point, and there is a lot of space where the Lagrange points are. If, instead, they're in a planetary orbit, then the shell casings and shrapnel are mostly going to orbit the planet in pretty much a cloud --- just as with the Lagrange point, a much smaller volume, so the cloud is a big deal. The spent shells are going to continue on in some weird and unpredictable orbit, but probably are not traveling at escape velocity, so they'll be hanging around in populated space, too. |
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q_3
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On the topic of space debris, it's probably noteworthy that G-Witch's writer, Ichiro Okouchi, also wrote the anime adaptation of Planetes which was all about that topic. Specifically the people whose job it was to try to clean the stuff up.
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TexZero
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My take on it is this spoiler[Guel will decline the CEO position, his brother will be forced to take it thus making him move out of the academy. In an effort to get revenge/justice/whatever they want to call it Guel will become an "Ace pilot" for a new AI assisted Gundam that doesn't make use of the existing technology. I doubt he outright becomes the big bad of season 2 but he will likely be used as an opposing force for the GUND-ARM company until he comes to the realization that he was the sole factor for his own downfall] |
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Covnam
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That sure was a nicer way to say for Prospera to say, "Get in the Robot, Shinji".
I was surprised when Suletta came out of the battle with no kills as you'd typically expect that to be a big moment during the fight or something after that set up. Then when she shows up to save the day instead of what happened I was expecting a block or something unintentional happening with the same result as what we got, but nope, clearly that was done on purpose. Now that was a nice surprise (nice in terms of plot, not what actually happened). The animation this episode was really great, but the visuals here were superb. That outreached hand and the contrast between the two girls faces was just so well done. Guel's incident didn't really land for me as I thought it was someone else after missing his name when it was said earlier ^^; I appreciate that Nika's spoiler[betrayal gave her the ability to save the ship and presumably everone, though not without getting caught] as you'd expect. I really like the issue brought up by the use of physical weaponry in space and a justification for using energy weapons (whether they're better or not in this setting). |
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kgw
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My view: it changed too fast spoiler[from cute girls doing cute robot things (with some heavy implication but mostly business talk) to gruesome massacre.]
Since the main villains did pilot Gundams and the defence/guard/whatever don't, spoiler[ it was obvious who would survive to the battle.Also, of course Suletta didn't defeat/destroy any of them.] We still don't know who the Dawn of Fold are, some grunt called them "terrorists", another "polluters", but that's not the same as knowing there is a war, conflict or whatever you want to call it. And if it's the first big attack, then we lacked a big proclamation, even a fake one to pretend you're not making an assassination for money. spoiler[Also, DoF ground soldiers are easily thwarted by two person with handguns and a Gundam with one hand. (sorry not sorry)] spoiler[For a moment I thought that Suletta was back to her Eri's persona, but since she didn't know what her birthday "candles" were, I will think it was Prospera mild brainwashing "you can kill bad guys, they are not real people". ] Also, what they did to Guel spoiler[by the writers it was very dirty. He was a jerk, but he loved his father. Who totally got it coming -he would've died anyway-. And he was "fired" from the Jeturk company, becoming Bob. So I do not see him becoming Jeturk's CEO, but his brother.] Let's see how the story develops in April. |
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SHD
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I think that was because they were basically acting as hired guns for Shaddiq & Co. Clearly they have their own agenda that they pursue, but in this incident that was secondary. For that matter, I'm also curious of spoiler[what Shaddiq is really playing at. He didn't seem particularly shaken when they told him that the operation failed, which may be just a case of him having a good poker face, but I think he absolutely has his own secret agenda.]
spoiler[Well, he can return to being Guel Jeturk, and he can return to the company, especially if Lauda puts his foot down... (realistic re: real business procedures? of course not, but who cares.  ) Plus, his father probably has a will that he may or may not have modified in light of recent events. For me the question is whether he would want that, or if he's so broken that he renounces his family and goes completely rogue to atone or whatever.]
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kgw
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Probably, but then they wouldn't give out their name. They radioed "We are Dawn of Fold" when they took the ship "Bob" was in. I had liked hearing a "Who? Never heard of you" 
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Guel's father un-herited him after thie second duel. But I am neither sure if he would come back after slicing his own father, probably he will become a rogue, Bob jr. or something. Besides, welcome to Gundam Daddy Issues.
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SHD
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And once he finds out that Shaddiq was behind the whole thing (because he's totally going to find out) he'll get a mask and become Bob the Avenger. Come to think of it, I really wonder how Lauda is going to take what happened...
Seriously.
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