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Toy Discoveries from the Recently Released “Saban Moon” Video




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AQuin1904



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:23 pm Reply with quote
That's a cool bit of history. I was barely old enough to understand the old Sailor Moon dub when it aired in the US, but I never saw any of these things at toy stores in my area. The only merchandise I ever found were some bootlegs in NYC and that weird old CD-ROM game at a general store in the middle of nowhere (although, being 5 or 6, I couldn't do too much hunting, so maybe these things were around and I just never knew).
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TarsTarkas



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:29 pm Reply with quote
Sad that the CG transformation scenes actually look better than the animation sections. They should have reused the Sailor Moon anime, instead of making their own crappy animation.
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StarFan13



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:45 pm Reply with quote
I wish i have those toys they''re hard to find in public like yard sales and donation stores
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MrTerrorist



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:57 pm Reply with quote
Someone musta though the Toonmaker's SailorMoon pilot got approved and immediately made toy versions based on the pilot before being informed the pilot didn't get the green light.
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otonanase



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:26 pm Reply with quote
Is there a corpse laying next to Sailor Mars I see there?
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CorzaMoon



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:11 am Reply with quote
Most of the toys discussed in the article being connected to the ToonMakers pilot, were actually released for the Japanese toy market in 1992, as featured in the Nakayoshi Anime Album.
- Sailor Moon's Sailor Locket
- Cosmic Crescent Jewel Box
- Cosmic Crescent Wand
(using the Japanese names of course)

The adventure dolls and doll accessories are the only things that were originals in North America.
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SDnekojin



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:12 pm Reply with quote
CorzaMoon wrote:
Most of the toys discussed in the article being connected to the ToonMakers pilot, were actually released for the Japanese toy market in 1992, as featured in the Nakayoshi Anime Album.
- Sailor Moon's Sailor Locket
- Cosmic Crescent Jewel Box
- Cosmic Crescent Wand
(using the Japanese names of course)

The adventure dolls and doll accessories are the only things that were originals in North America.


^^^ I came here to say this. ^^^

All of the human sized accessories still had the original Japanese songs and sound effects.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:12 pm Reply with quote
Thank you for pointing out this oversight. I've contacted the original author and adjusted some of the wording to reflect this.

However, any flippant accusations that "no research was done" are, frankly, false and unnecessary.
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CorzaMoon



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:28 pm Reply with quote
ANN_Lynzee wrote:
Thank you for pointing out this oversight. I've contacted the original author and adjusted some of the wording to reflect this.

However, any flippant accusations that "no research was done" are, frankly, false and unnecessary.

Apologies. I didn't mean to upset anyone. It was not a personal attack at this particular writer, but more a overall observation of the many articles I've read online in recent years.

Thanks for passing on the information. Very Happy
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Cutiebunny



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:45 pm Reply with quote
As an aside, I think it's sorta nifty that thanks to my SabanMoon cels being posted on my Rubberslug gallery, it spurred interest in finding the pilot.

I still wanna know who came up with the US bed, make-up station, closet and the mirror (not shown in the article, but it existed), all of which I did not own because I thought they were atrocious when they were first released. I did have a couple of the 6 inch dolls and made one of them into a keychain because the 1990s were a difficult time to get non-bootleg anime merchandise.

I remember the CD Rom game that was released in the US. Very lame by today's standards but hours of fun if you enjoyed printing out the same stock poses to color time and time again. The bedsheets were also really bad and yeah, I had those since the pillowcase of Usagi eating ice cream was awesome (and not so much purple-haired Jupiter).
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Brand



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:00 am Reply with quote
Just want to say I'm having mad nostalgia right now. Somehow I found all of those toys (I think at a pharmacy like CVS or Rite-Aid) and had them in my tweens.

I gave them all to a college friend who had a younger sister with an Intellectual disability and loved Sailor Moon. So, I don't feel bad, they went into good hands.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:23 am Reply with quote
We saw some at Toys R Us way back when

We made it a habit to look for anime toys from time to time Laughing

(We still have the official US Sailor Moon CDs)
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I_Drive_DSM



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:20 am Reply with quote
ANN_Lynzee wrote:
However, any flippant accusations that "no research was done" are, frankly, false and unnecessary.


I feel an issue here might be that information on the toys is buried on old message boards and subsequent personal analysis.

I say that because I'm very much certain that when originally the existence of the Toonmakers' version was revealed years ago that Sailor Moon fandom realized that the toys were connected to it. The original time period of the first run of the dolls in relation to the anime first coming to the US also suggests a rushed toy product (i.e., being re-worked) as they released near simultaneously - something that didn't happen with anime products in North America at the time. There were also cels of the pilot - at the time we knew only of the Toonmakers concept video screening - that got out to the public showing more scenes than we knew about, particularly of the moon crescent sailboat.

No one has written any real analysis on the Sailor Moon toys in North America over the years outside of personal blogs and aforementioned board posts.

In a way it's like unfrosted strawberry Pop-Tarts and Sailor Moon. If you didn't already know you wouldn't know how those correlate to one another.
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SDnekojin



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:03 pm Reply with quote
ANN_Lynzee wrote:
Thank you for pointing out this oversight. I've contacted the original author and adjusted some of the wording to reflect this.

However, any flippant accusations that "no research was done" are, frankly, false and unnecessary.


I know this article is now a few days old, and thus old news, but the edit doesn't really help either.

The crystal was (inconsistently) called the empyrean crystal in the DiC dub: As discussed here and here and here Or sometime the Imperium Crystal, which is pretty much the same to those of us who were barely even tweens at the time. So it was never a mystery to us.

and the transformation brooch was called a locket, albeit never a "Sailor Locket" in the DiC dub as well as seen here
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