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GATSU
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 Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:32 pm
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It's a shame this version is more likely to be published here than the original manga.
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FeralKat
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:37 pm
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The new artwork kinda makes me cringe... I don't know why, but I feel like they're violating a classic.  Like when Disney was making sequels to Peter Pan and Cinderella.
Just my two cents.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:41 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | | It's a shame this version is more likely to be published here than the original manga. |
Uh, as the article says, parts of both Tezuka versions of the manga have been already published in English.
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GATSU
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:48 pm
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testor: I didn't say in English; I said "here". Those were published in English for the Japan market.
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FeralKat
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:51 pm
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| testorschoice wrote: |
| GATSU wrote: | | It's a shame this version is more likely to be published here than the original manga. |
Uh, as the article says, parts of both Tezuka versions of the manga have been already published in English. |
The English versions are only available in Japan as bilingual manga. (Japanese in the bubbles, English translations in the margins.) Princess Knight was never properly brought over to the US.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:52 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | | testor: I didn't say in English; I said "here". Those were published in English for the Japan market. |
Shojo Beat was published "here."
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Brand
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:57 pm
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| testorschoice wrote: |
| GATSU wrote: | | testor: I didn't say in English; I said "here". Those were published in English for the Japan market. |
Shojo Beat was published "here." |
It was a couple of chapters from a multi-volume series not what I would really consider being fulling published in the U.S.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:04 pm
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| brand wrote: |
| testorschoice wrote: |
| GATSU wrote: | | testor: I didn't say in English; I said "here". Those were published in English for the Japan market. |
Shojo Beat was published "here." |
It was a couple of chapters from a multi-volume series not what I would really consider being fulling published in the U.S. |
Never said it was "fully."  Notice that Gatsu's typical negative first post doesn't sound so dire once all of these goalpost-moving qualifiers are added:
"It's a shame this version is more likely to be published here than the original manga. By "here," I mean "United States," even though the earlier bilingual version was available to American fans at prices below American manga prices, then or now. And by "published," I mean "published, but not published in the most popular English shojo magazine." And by "more likely," I mean "more likely than something that has already been done." Offer void where prohibited."
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GATSU
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:15 pm
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| Quote: | | By "here," I mean "United States," even though the earlier bilingual version was available to American fans at prices below American manga prices, |
And you have to go to Kinokuniya to find those import versions, which means S+H would probably bring it back to American prices.
| Quote: | | And by "published," I mean "published, but not published in the most popular English shojo magazine." |
Again, it was only a sample of the manga, not the entire thing.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:21 pm
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| GATSU wrote: |
| Quote: | | By "here," I mean "United States," even though the earlier bilingual version was available to American fans at prices below American manga prices, |
And you have to go to Kinokuniya to find those import versions, which means S+H would probably bring it back to American prices. |
That was the funny thing. Even with S+H, they were lower than American prices.
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| Quote: | | And by "published," I mean "published, but not published in the most popular English shojo magazine." |
Again, it was only a sample of the manga, not the entire thing. |
Again, the goalposts are moved, in typical fashion.  If only you added all of these qualifiers in the first place...but then such a misleading first post couldn't have been posted so hastily, quick-on-the-trigger.
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GATSU
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:26 pm
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testor:
| Quote: | | That was the funny thing. Even with S+H, they were lower than American prices. |
I'm guessing because they're essentially legal scantalations, not necessarily reflecting the style Tezuka was going for like the Shojo Beat version.
| Quote: | | Again, the goalposts are moved, in typical fashion. Wink If only you added all of these qualifiers in the first place... |
Well everyone else seems to have gotten my point, except for you. If you want to be a grammar nazi, then do so in a thread which requires that kind of service from you.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:30 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | | I'm guessing because they're essentially legal scantalations, not necessarily reflecting the style Tezuka was going for like the Shojo Beat version. |
Again with the watered-down qualifiers, posted after the fact.
| GATSU wrote: | | Well everyone else seems to have gotten my point, except for you. If you want to be a grammar nazi, then do so in a thread which requires that kind of service from you. |
After the point had to be qualified so much that it was half-irrelevant. It's not just grammar--it's plain misleading. But, glad to help.
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minakichan
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:41 pm
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Is this adaption going to be wonderful or terrible? Hmm.
I really want to see Princess Knight stateside... Preferably the Tezuka version. This new one is very cutesy as well, but I have my doubts.
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BennyMono
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:49 pm
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Is this gonna be lik beyblade?
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Paploo
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:57 pm
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The bilingual versions were available from numerous importers, and are reviewed- they translated one of the versions of the series completely [Tezuka did a few versions through the years], I think one of the Nakayoshi versions. So while they were made for the Japanese market, they're not impossible to find, Jason Thompson's Manga Encyclopedia reviews them [I have some of the bilingual Doraemon volumes- where it's all in english, but with side commentary in Japanese to help Japanese people learn english. It's pretty decent].
In addition to that, there's french language version of both the manga and the anime available here in Canada. Here's hoping Vertical or VIZ will translate more of the manga.
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