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Amuro1X
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 Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:22 am
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I'll come for Aerith, maybe I'll stay for Tifa while I'm there.
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tintor2
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 11:19 am
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I'm scared. Last time Nojima wrote a novel it was horrible and Square Enix completely decided to give it an ending
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R. Kasahara
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 11:34 am
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| tintor2 wrote: | | I'm scared. Last time Nojima wrote a novel it was horrible and Square Enix completely decided to give it an ending |
Which one was that? I have his Turks novel in my backlog >_>;
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JoelBurger
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 11:37 am
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| R. Kasahara wrote: | | Which one was that? I have his Turks novel in my backlog >_>; |
It was X-2.5. Which was also written over 8 years ago, so not a particularly good indicator of anything (good or bad).
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tintor2
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 11:45 am
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I mean for some weird reason Nojima had horrible idea of temporaily killing character in one novel for some random reason and then wrote audio drama that turned Yuna an "##toe than ever lacking a conclusion. Advent Children and XV are masterpieces of writing in comparison.
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Horsefellow
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 12:10 pm
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I mean, Nojima pretty much wrote everything relating to 7 and 10 and their spin offs. Even if you don't like some of the choices he made those are still his worlds and characters.
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Ashabel
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 2:57 pm
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| Horsefellow wrote: | | I mean, Nojima pretty much wrote everything relating to 7 and 10 and their spin offs. Even if you don't like some of the choices he made those are still his worlds and characters. |
No, they're not? He was hired on as a writer for both long after the setting and the characters were designed, and mostly helped with writing out the game events. Neither game actually credits him as the sole writer - VII has him share the credit with Yoshinori Kitase, Tetsuya Nomura, Hironobu Sakaguchi, while X had him share the credit with Kitase, Motomu Toriyama and Daisuke Watanabe (the latter of which went on to write Kingdom Hearts after Nojima was kicked out of the series because of the barely coherent disaster that was Kingdom Hearts 2).
Nojima is an okay writer when he's working with a team that manages to keep him under control, but he is consistently godawful as soon as he gets to write anything on his own. Giving him a novel about two women after the embarrassing disaster that was Episode Tifa, which had him portray her as a spineless wreckage who is completely dependent on Cloud's approval in order to function (and let's not even mention the gigantic parade of misogyny that is the rest of his career), is a disaster in the making.
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Juno016
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:13 pm
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I dunno about anyone else, but I am absolutely stoked to read "Trace of Telephone: Two Pasts"!
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AiddonValentine
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:57 pm
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| Ashabel wrote: |
| Horsefellow wrote: | | I mean, Nojima pretty much wrote everything relating to 7 and 10 and their spin offs. Even if you don't like some of the choices he made those are still his worlds and characters. |
No, they're not? He was hired on as a writer for both long after the setting and the characters were designed, and mostly helped with writing out the game events. Neither game actually credits him as the sole writer - VII has him share the credit with Yoshinori Kitase, Tetsuya Nomura, Hironobu Sakaguchi, while X had him share the credit with Kitase, Motomu Toriyama and Daisuke Watanabe (the latter of which went on to write Kingdom Hearts after Nojima was kicked out of the series because of the barely coherent disaster that was Kingdom Hearts 2).
Nojima is an okay writer when he's working with a team that manages to keep him under control, but he is consistently godawful as soon as he gets to write anything on his own. Giving him a novel about two women after the embarrassing disaster that was Episode Tifa, which had him portray her as a spineless wreckage who is completely dependent on Cloud's approval in order to function (and let's not even mention the gigantic parade of misogyny that is the rest of his career), is a disaster in the making. |
Weirdly enough that's actually a problem with a lot of FF's writers. Nowadays even when they're working together it's a mess. It's like when Sakaguchi left the competency quotient just plummeted
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