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NEWS: Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Encore Switch Game's Japanese Version Is Based on Wii U Game's Weste

There is some interesting speculation that part of the reason for the censorship coming even to the Japanese version is so that they can have a single global version that is able to conform to Chinese standards. If that is the case, it may be possible that content will be restricted in future first party Nintendo games to conform to Chinese standards, and that likely includes both fan service and LGBT content. This doesn't affect Mario or most Nintendo franchises, but it would affect Fire Emblem. I wouldn't mind if Nintendo simply made a version that conformed to Chinese standards and one that was fine with the rest of the world, but it's cheaper to make one version and simply be done with it.

encrypted12345 wrote:

There is some interesting speculation that part of the reason for the censorship coming even to the Japanese version is so that they can have a single global version that is able to conform to Chinese standards. If that is the case, it may be possible that content will be restricted in future first party Nintendo games to conform to Chinese standards, and that likely includes both fan service and LGBT content. This doesn't affect Mario or most Nintendo franchises, but it would affect Fire Emblem. I wouldn't mind if Nintendo simply made a version that conformed to Chinese standards and one that was fine with the rest of the world, but it's cheaper to make one version and simply be done with it.

I suppose that's one thing to consider, though I don't know much about either Nintendo or Sega's involvement in that market. Sega would probably definitely go for the global standard version, they don't really have the pockets or drive to at least spend the extra money to create two distinct versions for different markets. Nintendo on the other hand would likely without a doubt create a unique Chinese version if push came to shove. It still isn't ideal for Nintendo or Sega in this case because the game was originally released with two different versions. Fans weren't happy about the censorship the first time and were quite vocal about it to the point an uncensor patch for emulators and modded Wii U's was created, and then they now double down on that censorship despite the very vocal opposition to return of that version, but then go on to extend it to the originally uncensored Japanese version? Catering to China really isn't worth the damage in my opinion, but that's why I'm not a businessman.

I don't remember hearing anything being removed from the remasters of Yakuza 3 or 4. Outside of them replacing the actor who played Tanimura for petty reasons.

There is some interesting speculation that part of the reason for the censorship coming even to the Japanese version is so that they can have a single global version that is able to conform to Chinese standards.

And they still expect to sell the same or more in Japan?

I can be counted among the number that won't be getting it. I didn't get the Wii U version either. I was interested in the game, still am, but I just can't agree with the changes made to the US version originally, that have been kept the second time around despite the fact they'd probably sell more if they reversed them,

Yakuza remaster removed some trans joke quests and dialog too.

They did remove a really bad and transphobic side quest from Yakuza 3 where Kiryuu has to run away from a bodybuilding okama stereotype. They also added back in content that was censored from the original version's western release, including a sidequest featuring a much more sensitive depiction of a trans woman.

These are changes that improve the game. I very much doubt they were motivated by any kind of outside pressure; rather, it seems a lot more likely that with the benefit of distance from the original development, recognizing that that sidequest really sucked (which it did; it was bad in concept, but it also just sucked to play) and quietly removed it.

And the same is true for these changes to TMS. The original 'uncensored' outfits are cringy garbage. Good riddance.

It's not quite the same with TMS, but ultimately it's Nintendo trying to get rid of problematic elements..

I disagree about the game "not saying anything". A game doesn't need to say anything. If they want to just put their characters in swimsuits for fanservice then they can. And judging by how they handle their other properties, Nintendo has no issues doing that like the summer banners for Fire Emblem Heroes and the upcoming sauna and maid outfits for Three Houses.

and queue the angry nerds saying they now will not buy the game

harminia wrote:

and queue the angry nerds saying they now will not buy the game

It's 2019. They've been called the alt-right for a while now.