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firedragon54738
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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 Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:47 pm
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Cant someone just hostile takeover Harmony Gold all ready
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Chrono1000
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:17 am
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| Beatdigga wrote: | | Is there a reason for this outside of pure spite and hatred?
Screw Shadow Chronicles, Screw Love Live Alive, I just wanted a proper dub of Macross Delta on Netflix. |
It is strange that someone decided to make Macross the target of their lifelong vendetta. I doubt that this agreement even makes financial sense and the only thing it does is prevent a legal western release of the recent Macross series.
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AiddonValentine
Joined: 07 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:40 am
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| Beatdigga wrote: | | If only. Leonardo DiCaprio, Tobey Maguire, Lawrence Kasdan (writer of The Empire Strikes Back) and even Kawamori himself have tried and failed to make a Robotech/Macross film. |
Pretty much; that movie is NEVER seeing the light of day. Agram can claim it's coming over and over again, but it will never enter production or pre-production.
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Megiddo
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Location: IL
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:45 am
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So I never really did think about it, but how did Macross Plus escape the clutches of HG when everything else hasn't?
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LuckyAstei
Joined: 21 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:59 am
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| Megiddo wrote: | | So I never really did think about it, but how did Macross Plus escape the clutches of HG when everything else hasn't? |
If I'm recalling correctly both Macross Plus and Macross II got threw a legal Loophole that HG then fixed around the same time they trademark'd the terms for Macross and UN Spacy.
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Crabtree1
Joined: 14 Mar 2018
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Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:10 am
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Seriously!? I've been wondering recently who was going to get SDFM when this license was due to expire and now I hear that these utter idiots have extended the license!?
For those who don't know, Harmony gold also owns the license for the UK.
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MarshalBanana
Joined: 31 Aug 2014
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:45 am
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So do they need the licenses to those three show in order for Macross to exist? The whole thing is bizarre, it's almost like they have some sense of ownership over the whole thing and feel that loosing the license is wrong.
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Triltaison
Joined: 03 Jul 2011
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:10 am
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Well, that's absolutely infuriating. To go out of their way to block the originals at this stage in the game is just beyond insulting. Let the license die already. It's been over 30 years. Let the license die.
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Cardcaptor Takato
Joined: 27 Jan 2018
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:18 am
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| fuuma_monou wrote: | |
Is it remotely possible for Harmony Gold to remaster Robotech in HD video? I understand they had to do substantial alterations in Southern Cross to make it seem like it was set on Earth. Otherwise I don't see why they would pay for a license renewal. Anyone who wants Robotech on DVD probably already has it. |
Even if they did they would probably just do an upscale of the version with the changed sound effects and not the original TV edit.
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DRWii
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:49 am
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| AstroNerdBoy wrote: | | Do you really thing Studio Nue and Big West will license jack to HG after all of the utter crap they've pulled in screwing those companies out of earning money on their Macross sequels? |
Of course not. I read it as HG simply not having any rights to anything other than the original series, so everything else could theoretically be up for grabs. Although HG's stranglehold is Tatsunoko's fault, so even if that's the case, Tatsunoko would probably still find a way.
Seriously, are the royalties really that good, or is there just an executive with some incredible beef?
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IdeaOfEvil
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:49 am
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This is why I support anything Macross related that Japan releases with English subs - the entire Delta bluray collection, the Macross Plus OVA bluray with the dub OVA and sub movie, and the Frontier 30th Shooting Star movie set.
If I can show Japan that importers will support the extra sales that including English subs will bring in, unquestionably I'm gonna buy it all. Screw HG, and especially screw HG when Japan is willing to give English speaking fans an option of official subtitles.
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Cptn_Taylor
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:11 am
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| DRWii wrote: |
| AstroNerdBoy wrote: | | Do you really thing Studio Nue and Big West will license jack to HG after all of the utter crap they've pulled in screwing those companies out of earning money on their Macross sequels? |
Of course not. I read it as HG simply not having any rights to anything other than the original series, so everything else could theoretically be up for grabs. Although HG's stranglehold is Tatsunoko's fault, so even if that's the case, Tatsunoko would probably still find a way.
Seriously, are the royalties really that good, or is there just an executive with some incredible beef? |
This news doesn't change anything. It simply restates that Harmony Shit continues to have the license to SDF Macross (1982-1983 tv show and only this one) for the next couple of decades. That is all. They don't own the concept, the characters, the music etc... They don't own the sequels or prequels, ovas and what have yous. Even the name Macross which was trademarked by these bastards is being challenged across the world and they're losing it country by country to Big West. They already lost it for the UK. So come 2021 without the protection afforded by the trademark of the name Macross other companies are well within their rights to sell Macross merchandise locally. Wether that be toys, or tv series like Macross 7, or even better Macross Frontier or Delta.
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XerneasYveltal
Joined: 09 Jun 2015
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:13 am
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I bet the folks at Studio Nue and Big West are not going to be happy about this.
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soul.assassin
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:39 am
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This is beyond disgusting and amazing, it's clearly an attempt at another money grab by those crooks and I wonder how they managed to survive this long. Many fans outside Japan have waited for nearly a lifetime to see this costly farce of a blockade/embargo/stranglehold die and the IPs revert back to BW so that everyone could have the pleasure of having real and legit Macross content, only to be given this outrageous insult.
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Advent_Nebula
Joined: 04 Jul 2004
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Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:59 am
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| firedragon54738 wrote: | | Cant someone just hostile takeover Harmony Gold all ready |
Not even a money laundering scandal could bring them down, so not even that may be enough.
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