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yurigasaki
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it's wild that you can literally publish a story about the author's pedophilia and sex trafficking fantasies and that's fine, but as soon as you get mouthy on twitter, THAT'S when your story gets canned. incredible.
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Blanchimont
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The former is fiction, the latter has impact on actual people... |
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El Hermano
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You should be able to write whatever stories you want. But the dude trash-talked and insulted his partner, which is a pretty dick move and very unprofessional. |
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Rednimue
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My thoughts exactly. |
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Sailor Sedna
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"The story follows a 12-year-old boy named Rem who chooses to leave the party after the female hero orders him to be her sex slave. Rem returns to his hometown but is betrayed by those he thought he trusted. He wanders into a labyrinth and releases a girl named Alicia from a seal. However, after being released from the seal, Alicia calls Rem her "master," and the two form a sex slave contract."
(Yeah, I wonder what kind of people would write/read stories like this?) If this ever got in the US, it no doubt would be seized as obscene material, from its concept, it clearly has no artistic, literary, scientific, political, educational, judicial, governmental, or religious value. {Edit}: I edited 2 parts of your post. I removed the tangent where you listed many other franchises as that's OT and serves no purpose. I also removed your last sentence as it's pure flamebait that will only rile people up and cause arguments. ~ Psycho 101 |
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Blanchimont
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I would.
No, not likely. It's a book, not even a manga, it doesn't come anywhere near the threshold. And you don't get to set the standards for the Miller test. |
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TarsTarkas
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It is a light novel, no different than a novel. It will have no problem, nor will it be seized. The written word is much more free to do anything. Now that you can self publish on Amazon things can even get weirder.
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Sailor Sedna
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@TarsTarkas
I didn't know you could self-publish on Amazon... |
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TarsTarkas
Posts: 5925 Location: Virginia, United States |
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(Digital) It is why you have to weed through so many books. You learn to skim through the Amazon books, to find the fewer publisher books. I mainly read Sci-Fi and Fantasy, so for other fiction it might be different. English authors are busy following in Japan's light novel foot steps. |
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Sailor Sedna
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Interesting...
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louis6578
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I'm surprised by the number of people showing legitimate disgust and shock at the fact that a novel like this was going to be published. Our Western sensibilities shouldn't inhibit our ability to tell fact from fiction. Always remember that art, as long as it isn't hurting a real person, is art. You can make it about pedophilia, rape, murder, torture, patriarchal or matriarchal societies, or animal violence and the worst thing someone can really do about it is decide not to read it. That's the whole point of a free society.
Sorry for the mild soapboxing. I just find it irritating to have to explain why, say, loli hentai and light novels about shota sex slavery are okay, but ACTUAL child pornography is horrible. One is art, the other has victims and exploited youths. |
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Princess_Irene
ANN Reviewer
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With optional paper copies as print-on-demand. The Romance genre has even weirder stuff than Sci-Fi and Fantasy (I'm an omnivorous reader genre-wise), and apart from the age of the character in the LN in question, yeah, you can certainly find things of a similar nature. (My personal favorite oddity I've come across is Wriggle & Sparkle, about a unicorn shifter and a kraken shifter.  
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Sakagami Tomoyo
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Everything needs to have some kind of limit, and "it's only fiction, if you don't like it don't read it" doesn't excuse absolutely everything. Whatever you say about how reality and fiction are completely separate, stories do shape people's views and beliefs. Everyone's, to a greater or lesser extent, or whether they're aware of it or not. For some things, it isn't so much the nature of the content but how it's handled and how it's presented. If the villain's doing it and it's portrayed as a bad thing then sure, pedophilia, rape, murder, torture, animal violence, etc has a place in fiction. Some things, though generally not anything on that list, if the hero does it but it's presented as being a negative aspect of them, also reasonable. Or if it's an aspect of society (say, slavery being a thing, or torture being the national sport) and it's presented as a sign that society's screwed up that's fine, but slavery and the Torture National Championships being presented as good and necessary for society, that isn't. In this example: A young protagonist quitting the adventuring party because they don't want to be another member's sex slave? Perfectly reasonable. Returning home only to be betrayed? A standard enough hurdle for the protagonist to have to deal with. Then going on to take a sex slave of their own? No. The story involving setting said slave free and working to end slavery altogether might be okay, but I don't see any evidence this LN would go in that direction or inspires enough benefit of the doubt to think that it might.
As long as you're aware that being art doesn't make absolutely everything completely acceptable. |
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Blanchimont
Posts: 3563 Location: Finland |
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...acceptable to any one person, forbidden no. FTFY. As long as people know something is fiction it's a non-issue, and for most people are usually clever enough to distinguish what's real or not, and as for those who can't, well, we have age limits for a reason, even light novels like this have them (whether they're enforced is another matter). The problem comes when that's not the case and something IS taken at face value that perhaps shouldn't be, like religious books like bible. Then there's a potential for enormous damage... |
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louis6578
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^ Thanks for saving me the trouble of pointing this out. Taboo subjects should be explored through art, not ignored entirely. People who feel uncomfortable with that don't have any obligation to explore it with us. I don't even like these sorts of subjects, but I acknowledge that people have the right to enjoy exploring them through ART.
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