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INTEREST: Vic Mignogna No Longer a Member of RWBY Cast

And response to this action should be no career? Really?

So the appropriate response is to internet mob him, and ruin his life?

No, what you do is tell him to stop being a prick. He's apologized, and can now act better. There, done.

So yes, people are sensitive. Those tweets talk about him as if he's some kinda monster in sheep's clothing. If he is this monster, then these people are just as bad for shrugging for 10+ years. They're all virtue signaling. Especially RT.

Why would you assume this is my stance in any way? I've never argued that Vic should be jailed or even be fired from his voice acting jobs. But I do think the argument "people are too sensitive" is only helping perpetuate the negative discourse. If you want to talk about "mob justice is bad," or "I think getting him fired from voice acting jobs is too far" then do that, and leave out your thoughts about how you think people should feel about it. That was pretty much the entirety of my point.

False reports are like incidents of voter fraud. They just barely happen. But that doesn't mean we should discourage people like those accusing Vic of overstepping boundaries. Many incidents go unreported, even when the alleged perpetrator is just some schmo. People fear retaliation, they believe the police aren't going to do anything, they believed it wasn't important enough or they believed it was a personal matter. (RAINN, citing DOJ statistics from 2005 to 2010)

MF65 wrote:

GMArcturus wrote: I didn't expect that level of stupidity from people on this site. I mean, you're clearly going out of your way to act daft, so I'm not sure you get to call anyone else stupid. Let me try to make this easy for you to understand. There's a random stranger (remember, this is what Vic was to this person before the "crotch-gate" happened) who approaches you, climbs on your shoulders and starts rubbing his crotch against your neck in front of an audience. Would you be okay with it? Maybe. This person clearly wasn't, though, and that's all that matters here. Personally, I find it humiliating. Vic, in his eagerness to show how much of a cool bro he is, just got into this dude's personal space without even bothering to check if he consented to it. Seems to be a recurring thing with him. Boundaries are something that should be respected. I think that's what Vic and the people who are still defending his actions fail to understand.

And response to this action should be no career? Really?

To all of my POC and LGBTQ fans and friends: You are loved. You matter.

Innocent until proven guilty. The accused have rights too.

After watching the video Vic made in response to these allegations, I find I have very mixed feelings. On the one hand, my heart breaks for the rare few whose lives or careers are upended by a false accusation. HOWEVER, I've also personally been on the other side of that; seeing someone cry crocodile tears (even if s/he genuinely sees themself as the victim when they are in fact victimizing others), only for their behavior to stay the same.

As much as I want to acknowledge that yes, false accusations do exist, the number of them is so infinitesimal compared to those who have suffered real abuse and are petrified to step forward. Victims' lives are forever tied to this and everything about them is raked over the coals of public opinion, marring everything about them in the name of "finding the truth."

TL/DR: An explanation video is discussion-worthy, but I have to stand with those brave enough to risk public shaming and verbal attacks in order to speak out against abuse.

Innocent until proven guilty. The accused have rights too.

Huh... Yes? Is this supposed to be a difficult question? You act like an arse in your job, you get fired. You harass someone in your job, you get fired. It happens every day in real life. I mean, I'm not from the US of A, so maybe things work differently around here, but do try to do some of the stuff people claim he did on your own job and then let me know how it goes...

Now we're comparing him to Weinstein? Way to make a leap. Until evidence surfaces, there's comparison when it comes to their actions.

He's insensitive and that piggyback ride was dangerous, but vile? We've no evidence of vile behavior.

So far, he comes of as an entitled prick of a narcissist. Not evil, or conniving. Not yet, anyway.

NervClaX wrote:

Innocent until proven guilty. The accused have rights too.

The claims are true until proven false. The accusers have rights too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯