Forum - View topicPlease hire an editor
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v1cious
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I don't know if you have one already, but something needs to be done. It's becoming more common to see stories full typos and grammatical errors.
Take this story today for instance: animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2018-04-07/my-hero-academia-anime-3rd-season-confirmed-for-25-episodes/.130084 This looks terrible, and someone should've seen it before it was posted. And then there's this one: animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-05/hiro-mashima-launches-new-manga-on-june-27-also-plans-fairy-tail-sequel-and-spinoff-manga/.129988 That's been like that for two days on the front page, and no one even noticed. These are just two examples. I understand that these things cost money, but this just doesn't look professional at all. Last edited by v1cious on Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:21 am; edited 2 times in total |
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TexZero
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I'll leave this here. animenewsnetwork.com/subscription
There's some mistakes there, but call me cynical/jaded or just tired of seeing hypocrisy.
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v1cious
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Fair enough, but I'm not running a professional news site. |
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ANN_Lynzee
ANN Executive Editor
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I looked at both of the articles you linked. I added a word to the first article and added a missing (s) to another word within the article. In the second article I added a missing word.
Based on your post though, I thought there was maybe something wrong with the second article's headline but it looks ok to me? |
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v1cious
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It's not the headline, it's the subheadline:
Last edited by v1cious on Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:40 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Dessa
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I see absolutely nothing wrong with that subheading, it's perfectly fine.
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TexZero
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It's direct translation which leads to missing a few words that would clarify things. Currently looks like
What people instinctively fill in on their own
Additionally, if they really wanted to get extra fancy they could link to the character page for Plue for those people that don't understand why that character is relevant. Either way, there's things that can be improved as is stated earlier. I just feel the OP is doing it the wrong way. They should be more upfront as to where and what the errors are instead of demanding the company hire new/more help. |
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Dessa
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It's still a perfectly valid sentence, the kind that are used all the time in journalism. It's a 2-part sentence, like if someone used a) and b), just without those (because they look sloppy in a header).
See? It's still a fine sentence that works perfectly and there is nothing wrong with it. |
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TexZero
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A two part sentence still requires proper structure, which is lacking. Emphasis on the comma that should be outside the quotation marks. Again, I'm not particularly invested in this just was pointing out to the OP that there's better ways to go about things. I've showcased ways to improve the OP and the problems with the articles at this point it's out of my hands. |
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Gina Szanboti
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I dropped into this area to see if there was any mention of why we've gone 5 days with no new weekly reviews, and this caught my eye.
Sorry for the necro, but I've longed for this site to get an editor for years. Jacob seems to be the only one capable of editing their own work before publication here (and I get that it's not easy - you know what you wanted to write and your brain ignores your eyes and fills it in when reviewing it), and articles with typos are the rule rather than the exception. Sadly, that's become the norm across the internet, including online newspapers of record with well-paid editors. That said, this thread demonstrates why they don't really feel the need for one. Even bolded, none of the defenders seem to have realized that "new will work be" is not proper English sentence or clause structure by any mental gymnastics. oO The issue was never the punctuation, since it was a sub-header and not intended to be a complete sentence. And no, the comma does not go outside the quotation marks, unless you live in Europe (I don't know the conventions in other parts of the world). On an American-based site, the convention is still that commas and periods go inside (however, given how international this site is, I tend to grit my teeth and bear it, as the Europeans surely do when reading the American style). I know the reason for that is long since obsolete, but we've stubbornly resisted the metric system - do you think we're going to adjust to modern typography so easily?  Also, if a sentence ends with a quoted question, an additional period outside the quotation marks is not required. (E.g., [When I asked Sarah, she responded, "Is that what you think?"] not [...you think?".])
I think it's a losing battle though (but not a "loosing" one). I count the small blessings of people using "weary" only when they mean "tired," and "wary" when they mean "suspicious," instead of using "weary" for both and leaving me in the dark as to which they actually feel. I sigh with relief when someone asks me to "bear with" them instead of getting naked (bare) with them. I may be biased (yet am not "bias"), but I thank Star Wars and X-Men that more people are learning that "rogue" is not spelled "rouge." And if you find typos or mangled sentences in what I've written, rather than it being hypocrisy, I'd say it only proves that everyone needs an editor. 
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yuna49
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OK, I'll nitpick.
"Jacob seems to be the only one capable of editing their own work before publication here" should be "Jacob seems to be the only one capable of editing his own work before publication here" As for commas and quotation marks, I agree the comma should be inside. The only time I depart from this rule is in technical writing. I post a lot on ubuntuforums.org, and if I'm quoting a specific command, I put the punctuation outside the quotes to make it clear the punctuation isn't part of the command. I have a friend who has worked professionally as a technical editor. He takes the same approach. |
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Gina Szanboti
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I pondered that one for a bit, but decided that since the referent is the work of an unknown number of people of unknown gender, I figured "their" was appropriate. Old style would be, "the only one capable of editing his or her own work."
Imagine the sentence without the "own." "...the only one capable of editing his work" could be construed to mean that no one could edit Jacob's work but Jacob. Adding "own" clarifies that it's the work of the author being self-edited, not the work of Jacob, and since we don't know the gender of these unknown authors, "his/her" and the singular "their" are among the accepted substitutes. I think this is one of those areas where people are still hashing it out, like whether or not to use two spaces or one between sentences in an age of proportional fonts.  Myself, I prefer two unto the grave, but I understand the arguments for one. Of course, on this site, that preference is preempted by the heartless text editor. 
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Violynne
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Both of these are incorrect. It should be written as: "Jacob, capable, seemingly edits work before publication." English is the dumbest language on this planet due to is ridiculous "rules" and the incessant need by its writers to regurgitate the subject repeatedly, as with the examples above using "their" or "his" in both inaccurate examples. Watch as many cringe at the following: Jacob said, "I'm done with editing my own work.". The two periods are proper, but "rules" established by printing companies centuries ago, and English cronies who can't let them go, make the above seem incorrect. I suppose it could be worse, and it's written as: jacob edits b4 posting lol |
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