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Emdykay
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So what is your issue? Dress code is still in effect at the school, teaching kids discipline, as they can not wear what they want but have to conform to the expected uniforms. |
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Chrysostomus
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Of course, this whole endeavor will most likely just result in some girls wearing pants some days. No boy will ever don the skirt, I imagine. But still, the intent behind it is clear and that's what's very troubling. |
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Emdykay
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Which is a completly different argument than what you were trying to pass it as. |
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Chrysostomus
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Emdykay
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No no, I agree with you on that. It is mostly a matter of basic social norms changing fairly rapdily as progressions such as these are indicative of.
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H. Guderian
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Iceland has one of the best Maternity packages on the planet, and their birthrate is still dropping. What the problem is kids in their youth are deciding they can live fruitful lives and once they get older they won't need a family anymore. Careers and living 'free of burdens (family)' are more important. Raising a family has been discouraged by many factors, and Progressive Ideals would actually be a cause. If there was suddenly a hyper Conservative revolt and Erdogan of Turkey had his way, he openly tells his people to breed, because that's the war of the future. Frankly when you see how the backwards countries are operating at the highest levels, their willingness to sacrifice individual happiness for the collective's ability to grow will eventually have them overpower other groups over time. This is on the very long term, and once again Western folks see the problems of society to be too far off. How many people are saving electricity or reproducing for the sake of perpetuating their ideals? Its a very complicated issue and producing new youth has been a cornerstone of policy even going back to Plato's ideal Republic. But on to the topic, it is nice on the surface to have uniform variants, but isn't the point of having uniforms to discourage behavior? You're supposed to be focusing on studying and setting yourself up for life. A few kids will see the rules and find ways to operate within them. This suggests to the youth that rules are malleable, and Uniforms are not universal. School is not a self-expression exhibition. |
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Juno016
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When I was young, I watched a friend's father (who had gone through a stroke a few years before) eat an entire bag of dog biscuits, thinking they were cookies. I've never been curious about the taste of them since. On the other hand, I can't say I haven't worn a skirt before... and I'll leave it at that. But for me, the skirt in public isn't a matter of expression. I just would like more room down there. And heck yes, I'd do it my entire life if it made more social sense to. =P |
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BadNewsBlues
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..... isn't that what things like demerits, detention, & suspensions are for? that reasoning seems awfully superfluous.
So is not judging and mistreating people which unfortunately is something that's not regularly taught and in fact encouraged in some cultures. |
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Chrysostomus
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Stop trying to reinvent the wheel, please. It's not gonna work. You are going to fail. Last edited by Chrysostomus on Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:23 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Chrysostomus
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yuna49
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In another story about school uniforms, a public school in Ginza recently contracted with Armani to design this year's uniforms. A full set costs over $700. Not surprisingly, some of the parents are up in arms, especially since they had not been consulted by the school's administration. The new uniforms have been designated as "recommended but not compulsory." which I'm sure most of us would see as creating two classes of students in that school.
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/02/09/world/asia/ap-as-japan-pricey-uniform-.html
Note that this isn't an upscale private school, but a public one. |
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BadNewsBlues
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No but at the same time I don't see the supposed practicality in dress codes allegedly instilling a sense of discipline in kids either.
Please don't use the tired strawman argument that kids are brainwashed into crossdressing and that such as thing is somehow bad for society as a whole.
And yet you're proving my point with that second quote. |
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Bargain Hunter
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Yeah, somebody definitely has to come up with a snappier way to express this. |
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Galap
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Ok, it's time to cool off a bit. If you want to discuss this topic further, please use less edge and more content.
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zrdb
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I really don't see any problems with this except that the thought of the policy seems to get some people bent out of shape. So what if girls wear pants and boys want to wear skirts? Anybody ever heard of a kilt?
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