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CCTakato
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:03 pm
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So now that Saban finished dubbing Doki Doki and the rights have reverted back to Toei, what's going to happen to the rest of the franchise after this? Will Toei find another company to dub future seasons? Will they continue to use Netflix for future seasons of Glitter Force or would they finally release more subtitled episodes of Pretty Cure on Crunchyroll? How successful has the Glitter Force dub been and are there going to be any plans for home video releases or American made merchandise?
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LaytonPuzzle27
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:31 pm
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As much as I did not like the Saban's dubs of Smile and DokiDoki there are those who enjoy those dubs. The good thing that came out of this is for those who enjoyed the dubs they became fans of the PreCure series of because of there interest in Glitter Force. Even one user said this from Pretty Cure Wiki site "if we don't support this then we will never get a Japanese version officially subbed or a uncut English dub." Now that Toei got the PreCure property back from Saban and more people are interested in the PreCure franchise if this leads to a proper dub versions of PreCure by either Viz Media or any honest distributor it better be worth it.
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Lynx Amali
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:39 pm
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LaytonPuzzle27 wrote: | Now that Toei got the PreCure property back from Saban and more people are interested in PreCure franchise if this leads to a proper dub versions of PreCure by either Viz Media or any honest distributor it better be worth it. |
Well, that already happened back in 09.
Toei and Ocean already did a relatively uncut dub that was actually pretty great voice cast wise. While they were changes, it still retained most, if not all, of the episodes and didn't have anything cut.
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H. Guderian
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:52 pm
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the real question is why do they keep grabbing the bad seasons?
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darkchibi07
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:12 pm
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That's the tricky thing about bringing a kids show like Precure over here in the West. Will Toei try again in bringing over the franchise to the little kids, or will they just forget that and just market it towards hardcore anime fans?
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MajinAkuma
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:21 pm
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H. Guderian wrote: | the real question is why do they keep grabbing the bad seasons? |
DokiDoki is my favorite.
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epicwizard
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:25 pm
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CCTakato wrote: | or would they finally release more subtitled episodes of Pretty Cure on Crunchyroll? |
Don't hold your breath for that. Toei most likely wants a bigger-scale release for the franchise. They seemingly aren't very keen in letting their magical girl shows (or heck, a lot of their other shows in general) stream on Crunchyroll. It's most likely why Crunchyroll hasn't even touched Ojamajo Doremi yet.
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TsukasaElkKite
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:30 pm
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It’s a gag dub but I can’t stop watching it. I hope that now that the rights have reverted to Toei that they’ll do what they did when they brought the original Precure over and dubbed it.
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epicwizard
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:42 pm
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TsukasaElkKite wrote: | It’s a gag dub but I can’t stop watching it. I hope that now that the rights have reverted to Toei that they’ll do what they did when they brought the original Precure over and dubbed it. |
You know that Toei approved of Saban's localizations of Pretty Cure. Therefore, if Toei ever decides to dub more of the successors, they're probably gonna do a heavy localization, like what Saban did, since that's working well with the kids that are watching it on Netflix. They seemingly aren't very focused on the anime fans since they're not the target audience.
Think about this very carefully: would Toei suddenly switch to producing a more faithful dub that only appeals to a few thousands anime fans that aren't even the target audience for the franchise?
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LaytonPuzzle27
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:19 pm
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epicwizard wrote: |
Think about this very carefully: would Toei suddenly switch to producing a more faithful dub that only appeals to a few thousands anime fans that aren't even the target audience for the franchise? |
I work very well with the Sailor Moon series.
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LaytonPuzzle27
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:21 pm
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I'm just glad that this Glitter Force nightmare is over.
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Zerreth
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:22 pm
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So... they weren't okay with the "Pretty Cure" word pun and localized it but then decide to just throw it away and append the original "doki doki"??
I'm very confused. Do they want to localize it to the mainstream audience or not?
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epicwizard
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:20 am
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LaytonPuzzle27 wrote: |
epicwizard wrote: |
Think about this very carefully: would Toei suddenly switch to producing a more faithful dub that only appeals to a few thousands anime fans that aren't even the target audience for the franchise? |
I work very well with the Sailor Moon series. |
Well, that's because Sailor Moon is HUGE within the anime fandom in North America. A redub was in such popular demand for years that Viz Media believed that it was worth the trouble of getting the show out of licensing limbo and producing a redub.
Pretty Cure, while it indeed has fans, isn't all that huge within the anime fandom in North America. The fanbase just isn't huge enough to justify a faithful dub. Not to mention that the franchise is more kid-oriented than Sailor Moon. I'm not sure how sane it would be for Toei to suddenly move away from the mainstream kid audience (which could potentially make them big bucks) and focus on catering to the anime fans for future dubs of Pretty Cure. Again, anime fans aren't the target audience for Pretty Cure. It's for kids.
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JennLegacy
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:38 am
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LaytonPuzzle27 wrote: |
epicwizard wrote: |
Think about this very carefully: would Toei suddenly switch to producing a more faithful dub that only appeals to a few thousands anime fans that aren't even the target audience for the franchise? |
I work very well with the Sailor Moon series. |
I think the general logic is that Toei is kind of "done" getting younger fans into Sailor Moon. It's less of a kids' property to them at this point and more of a nostalgia property, so they're going to market it as such. Obviously it's still a kids show and people will still show it to their kids, but Toei would rather get those kids to watch Precure instead.
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epicwizard
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:32 am
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JennLegacy wrote: | I think the general logic is that Toei is kind of "done" getting younger fans into Sailor Moon. It's less of a kids' property to them at this point and more of a nostalgia property, so they're going to market it as such. Obviously it's still a kids show and people will still show it to their kids, but Toei would rather get those kids to watch Precure instead. |
You hit the nail on the head.
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