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Northlander
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Because if even ONE kid doesn't get the present they've wished for and/or expected, or one family doesn't reconcile in time for Christmas, or if Santa Claus stubbed his toe and can't deliver presents and nobody can do his job for him for that important night, or if some weird Halloween Skeleton Guy kidnaps santa and tries to do his job for him (and poorly), Christmas is ruined forever. Can you not fathom the seriousness of the situation?
I'm almost afraid to ask, but... is it even worse than the Star Wars Christmas Special? |
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EricJ2
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Actually--since Ted Geisel first started out as an advertising artist--the Grinch first appeared in a Seuss magazine story, as a cynical advertising sales-creature, who tries to sell a proto-Who on the idea that a $.69 piece of string is better than the sun! (Y'see, the sun doesn't work all day, year round or indoors, and it's not portable enough to fit in your pocket!) That morphed into Seuss' idea that the Grinch would only see the commercial side of Christmas, like we sometimes do, and wouldn't consider the idea that the Whos take it spiritually. That said, I don't think we're in any danger of not enough anime references to Rudolph. From what we hear in anime episodes, the Japanese don't appear to have any OTHER concept of Santa and his sleigh, or yuletide mythology in general, except for what Videocraft and Gene Autry told them. (Qv. Osaka in Azumanga Daioh, and Kirito's short-lived Christmastime girlfriend in Sword Art Online.) You know Dasher and Dancer, and Prancer and Vixen, but they don't. |
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DerekL1963
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If you're under forty or so... you've probably never seen the real horror of the Christmas Special Season. The Christmas variety show. Now, there were some good ones, but most were downright awful. And the awful ones all followed pretty the same format... an A-lister who was sliding down, a B-lister who hadn't fallen too far, or a once beloved C-lister to headline. A half dozen or so low B or high C listers to round out the cast. One or two standard "Christmasy" sets (a stage that was bare except for a few cheap trees and 'mounds' of snow, or a homey faux log cabin complete with fireplace and roaring fire, etc...). The same round of lame jokes, faux memories of Christmas Past, the same routine of pretending they were all great friends gathered for a jolly Christmas and a very limited standard repertoire of public domain Christmas songs. I swear it sometimes seemed as if they just recycled the scripts from year to year. I must have seen a dozen of them every Christmas, my mother loved them. |
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Gina Szanboti
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Well, ymmv of course. It doesn't have Chewbacca's dad watching VR porn, but it does have death, abandonment, suicidal depression, and a child with a terminal illness (complete with In Memory Of title card at the end). Read up and decide for yourself. |
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Kadmos1
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At least Funimation is 1 of those companies that acknowledges they have screwed up. |
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Northlander
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Normally, I'd say something like "OK, you win this one", but... you have convinced me that whenever the Alf Christmas Special is involved in any context or situation, nobody wins. Ever. Last edited by Northlander on Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:50 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Gina Szanboti
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That is the saddest kitten I've ever seen. Not just sad, but totally "wtf, world?" written all over its face. Perfect.
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Errinundra
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I recently read Anime: A History by Jonathon Clements and realised that The New Adentures of Pinocchio was the the first "anime" I ever saw, some time back in the 60s.
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writerpatrick
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When talking about Rankin Bass (or even early anime), everyone forgets about The Festival of Family Classics. Since it aired in 1972 it would be one of the earliest anime to air on Western TV and at 18 episodes constitutes the majority of RB's drawn animation. It is definitely one of the most overlooked Rankin Bass shows.
Unfortunately, only part of the series was released on DVD. The episodes can be found on VHS, but not as a proper series. Instead it came out as random episodes from various companies, usually as bargain children's tapes. To collect it properly takes a lot of hunting. If you know where to look, most of the series can be found online in English except for the first episode, Hiawatha. The series also includes a Christmas episode, A Christmas Tree, as well as a Halloween episode, Jack O'Lantern. The latter often showed up on it's own as a TV special. |
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StudioToledo
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Aside from "Kid Power", another TopCraft involvement released around the same year was a series of hour long TV specials sold as "Movies" as part of an ABC block called "The Saturday Superstar Movie". One noted one I can think of was called "The Red Baron". Watching this one in particular shows how very young and inexperienced those TopCraft animators were, being an early effort, we can at least let that slide anyway, though one internet reviewer gave us his opinions anyway...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB3UVXu_uzc
Surprised ANN has an entry for Muller at all. Outside of Rankin/Bass, he also wrote other TV specials like Puff, The Magic Dragon and Strawberry Shortcake. He wrote three rather forgotten Xmas specials in the early 90's including one released after his death called "The Twelve Days of Christmas", itself, also animated in Japan, though it's nothing to write home about, though Phil Hartman got to do a voice in it.
Of course, not mentioning everyone on a foreign staff became the norm as more Saturday morning cartoons mills out of Hollywood began farming out their shows to all sorts of places like Mexico City, Sydney, Tapei, Manilia, Seoul as well as Tokyo.
Better than Mighty Orbots and its Gary Owens!
They really could've just credited him as an "Animation Supervisor" but, eh....
And a nerdy mouse who nearly ruined Christmas for an entire town by being an nerdy naysayer!
Now I wonder what sponsor did they had that night it aired to merit the cut-down job?
The show was a product of a Koala craze that hit Japan at the time in '84 I've read, another koala-featured cartoon produced around that time by another studio that also showed up here in the states was called "The Noozles".
Even 1987's The Wind in The Willows had a few anime guys on it despite that special having been farmed out to James wang's Cuckoo's Nest Studios in Taiwan.
Lord knows if such staying power was at play, they would be playing 'From All of us, To All of You!" every year here in the states, especially if Disney wanted to pimp the latest film in the cinemas.
It is, though I suppose the closest we have of anything school related at night might be the open house. If only high school classrooms got to be dolled up like the Nazi coffee house in Urusei Yatsura 2: Beautiful Dreamer, I'd get behind that if offered in my World World II class! My high school once had a summer carnival funded every year by the athletics club. That stopped while I was a pre-teen and never came back.
Remember, that was an INSTITUTION for any 6 year old and a calling card to stay up an hour late (as long as it was animated)! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0ZwQJnYGfc
And the Big Three Network that gave those specials the time of day at all (and the sponsors who chipped in, gotta buy those Norelco shavers!). |
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