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Eisenmann V
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:21 pm
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But can he explain Dai-Shogun - Great Revolution?
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The Mad Manga Massacre
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:33 pm
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So who's going to be grumpy but likeable...? If only more people would stop treating anime like this exotic sentient mass and treat Japanese animation with the respect it deserves.
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pajmo9
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:47 pm
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Who here thinks that the Japanese animation industry will continue on like it always has?
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grooven
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:49 pm
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I think it's Blue Sky Studios.
Anyway this would be really fun to see. I don't think there will be much change.
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Amiantos
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:38 am
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pajmo9 wrote: | Who here thinks that the Japanese animation industry will continue on like it always has? |
I think it will continue just fine. If anything a bit more quiet now that a grumpy old man is gone from the industry for the time being. We all know this guy is gonna keep coming back and retiring til the day he dies.
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Thatguy3331
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:43 am
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Is there really anything much to comment on? Also are these really the people to be going around deciding who the next Miyazaki is? There is no next Miyazaki? Perhaps another anime director who makes widely acclaimed and easily accessible movies sure but Miyazaki is Miyazaki.
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mgosdin
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:58 am
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I'm sure it will be an interesting discussion.
If we're luck there won't be "Another Miyazaki" but instead there will be a Director / Producer / Animator that comes along and is "Whatever his / her name". Someone that is good enough to set a new gold standard for Anime in Japan and Animation Worldwide. If we're lucky.
Mark Gosdin
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jojothepunisher
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:00 am
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mgosdin wrote: | I'm sure it will be an interesting discussion.
If we're luck there won't be "Another Miyazaki" but instead there will be a Director / Producer / Animator that comes along and is "Whatever his / her name". Someone that is good enough to set a new gold standard for Anime in Japan and Animation Worldwide. If we're lucky.
Mark Gosdin |
One of the reasons why Miyazaki got so big was he made epic movies like Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away, movies that even the Western audiences were able to appreciate on a very large scale. The few people who I think are close to Miyazaki are Makoto Shinkai and Mamoru Hoshida (because they are both sort of prolific and are known to make movies that get emotional), but neither one of them seems interested in making movies that combine epic story elements with thought provoking themes. So to me, there won't be a new "Miyazaki" but I am content with what we have right now. In fact, I hope Makoto Shinkai get more prolific than he is now because that means we get to see more of his signature detailed animation.
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fanime99
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:29 am
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Anyone else notice that the summary didn't bother to mention where in the world this event was occurring?
You had to click from the front page to this article, and then further on to the actual full announcement to discover that it was happening in New York. I'd have thought that warranted mention on the front page, or in the summary at least.
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Scias
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:33 am
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jojothepunisher wrote: |
One of the reasons why Miyazaki got so big was he made epic movies like Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away, movies that even the Western audiences were able to appreciate on a very large scale. |
Personally, I think there is more to his films than simply just being 'epic'. Nausicaa or Mononoke would be considered his most epic due to the grand scale of the respective stories. But, I feel his and Ghibli's films in general have such a universal appeal is because of themes like pacifism, coming of age, nature vs technology and the human race caught in the middle of it all, anti-war, the entire ecosystem itself, childhood nostalgia and the power of the human imagination etc.
Themes that any person could relate to or inspire a desire to explore those ideas.
I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying here, I just think all of his movies have something interesting to think or ponder over.
This will feel cynical of me, but I feel like there won't be much change to the industry in a post-Miyazaki industry. A lot of modern anime fans just treat the guy as a meme these days, and whenever he expresses criticism of the industry and the otaku culture that has spawned from it, it's usually treated with things like "oh, he's just a grumpy old man, he doesn't know what he's talking about"
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:48 am
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@fanime99: The Japan Society is in NYC (333 East 47th Street).
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Tempest_Wing
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:04 pm
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fanime99 wrote: | Anyone else notice that the summary didn't bother to mention where in the world this event was occurring?
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It's in the headline.
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Xristophoros
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:35 pm
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the anime industry is in the worst state it has ever been. there are very few leaders left to elevate the art form into anything meaningful. with miyazaki and takahata retiring and oshii being very close to retirement, who is left? there is shinkai (he is very talented but limited thematically), hosoda (my personal favourite of the new wave), anno (spent too much of his life with eva and has not branched out of it), koike (very rarely makes a film), yuasa (love his work but he does not appeal to the masses)... that's pretty much it as far as leaders of the industry who have a distinct style and presence. with so much garbage flooding the market every season, it makes me wonder how long this can possibly go on for. just a matter of time before the industry all comes crashing down. we need more diversity with regards to content... we need more mature and thought provoking content... we need other genres to be better represented such as scifi and dramas (that tackle serious themes) and true fantasy (not girls with magical powers) etc... until then, i will continue to catch up on the best anime from the 80s, 90s and 2000s. a healthier time for the industry to be sure.
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BlueCatMage
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:32 pm
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Personally I agree with Mark. I think it's very wrong to want someone to "replace" Miyazaki at Ghibli. He had his own unique stories to tell, and he gave many of us wonderful and priceless anime movies to treasure. But to ask someone new to try and recreate what he did is not only absurd, it's utterly insulting. What the anime movie world need is someone new who's open to all kinds of story telling ideas and doesn't let failure stop him/her.
I'm just hoping that in the future Ghibli doesn't stop making movies with Miyazaki's art style to them. It be a real shame to lose any future movies without that bright and vivid color style.
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Guile
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:49 pm
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Miyazaki never really seemed to be part of the industry to begin with from my observations. He seems to be lumped in with anime in the west a lot by websites who list their top favorite anime, but in Japan I never really noticed too much crossover between him and the industry as a whole. His work never really seemed to be popular with otaku or the average fan. I don't think the industry will change at all without Miyazaki. I think I also read somewhere he doesn't consider his films anime to begin with. I've only seen a couple of his films myself
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