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REVIEW: Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works Season 2 Blu-Ray

Saffire wrote:

Videogamep wrote: What's the point of this? It's pretty obvious that neither of you are going to convince the other so why not just agree to disagree? Arguing like this serves no purpose except to turn this into another argumentative Fate thread™. They're fulfilling the prophecy: all Fate threads must devolve into people shouting past each other.

ANN should do an editorial on why that always seems to happen. I generally like Type-Moon stuff, but it seems like every Fate discussion becomes this.

And you're still going at it as if the point of the story was to make sure that Shirou doesn't become Archer.

No, it just doesn't concern you unless you want to blindly trust Type Loonies.

No, I said that if he does change fundamentally, he won't become Archer for sure. Do you see why I am so confrontational towards you?

We can safely assert that if Shirou changes fundamentally he will not become Archer.

And I do think Shirou needs to change on some fundamental level (like he supposedly did in the other two routes) in order to not end up as Archer.

They're fulfilling the prophecy: all Fate threads must devolve into people shouting past each other.

That's because that's what I felt the story seemed most concerned with; to me, the theme of Shirou asserting himself didn't occur to me at all;

EDIT: I *do* understand where you're coming from, but Shirou's journey into self-actualization just feels lacking for me.

Okay, but we've been through that already.

One upside to this becoming an argumentative Fate thread™ is that it didn't turn into an "Aniplex prices suck" thread™.

As a story, it's almost impossible to evaluate this film by itself. It is undoubtedly just the first act of a larger tale

Nick Creamer review of Kizumonogatari:

Nick Creaer wrote:

As a story, it's almost impossible to evaluate this film by itself. It is undoubtedly just the first act of a larger tale

Well, that didn't stop him to give UBW a D and grade Kizumonogatari with a B even when the case is similar! This is what I mean by second opinions, he's obviously biased by his love to the series.

And you are obviously not biased by your own love for the Fate franchise, because bias is not an inherent property of all opinions, yes? Not to mention that UBW II is not the first act, it's the second, the story is technically complete (because an anime series, or any adaptation actually, has to stand or fall on its own, and shouldn't require knowledge of the source material to be experienced), so it is actually perfectly possible to judge it on a story level.

I really can't understand why you insist on the second opinion thing when it's been said repeatedly that this IS the second opinion on the site about this show. Gabriella Ekens already gave her weekly streaming reviews on the series when it aired last year. You're just grasping at straws hoping to get your own opinion parrotted back to you

And you'd still have to explain why, mysteriously, so many of the other reviews for the series are positive on other sites and even among average viewers.

Is it possible that there is some unnecessary harshness being applied to the series? And if so...then why?

Different people have different opinions, dude. It just so happens that the ANN reviewers didn't like UBW.

I understand that completely. But if you're a professional reviewer, should you not have some concrete and convincing reasons for down-rating a show besides "I don't like the FSN franchise'"?

There could be a compelling standalone story here that made full use of all the characters on display and really let ufotable stretch their aesthetic muscles, but that would require some truly bold compositional revisions. Instead, the story we got is narrow, simplistic, ineffectively talk-heavy, poorly paced, and not well-suited to a visual medium. Unlimited Blade Works represents an unfortunate failure of ambition, with its clear strengths only making it that much more disappointing that it fails to realize its potential.