Forum - View topicHaruka: Beyond the Streams of Time is an effing mess!
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GATSU
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Besides being an FY rip-off, the author shoves the female lead from one wacky situation to another in less than two pages. I'm still wondering why Viz thought this would be a hit in Shojo Beat.
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CloverKuroba
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Haruka (also known as Harukanaru Toki no Naka de - Hachiyō Shō) is a popular video game franchise in Japan, so maybe Viz wanted it to get some exposure over here. But yeah, that doesn't make up for it being utter tripe.
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GATSU
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Supposedly, they say the anime's been licensed for some reason.
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HitokiriShadow
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Yeah, I didn't think that had been licensed but I thought I might have just forgotten about it. As for the manga, the premise is decent (albeit very similar to Fushigi Yugi), but the chapter was, as you said, a f***ing mess. It was incredibly rushed. What happened in that chapter should have occurred over 3-4 chapters. Absolutely no sense of pacing, and they didn't bother with the least bit of character development or set up. |
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ANBUx3
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Yeah, it's a huge mess. Everything moved so fast, it barely made sense. Put Nana or Baby and Me back in, SB. :/
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Subaru19
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What I've seen of the anime is actually very good. As a Fushigi Yugi fan I noticed a great deal of difference between the two, though they are similar in many good ways like character development (which I think is better in HaruToki) and I actually think that since it came later the style of animation is much prettier in HaruToki. I guess the same can't be said for the manga. |
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Terrestrial_Cel
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Like someone else mentioned, HaruToki is a big shojo game franchise and has been around for a while. The manga is just one part of the whole-shebang. I own a few of the Japanese manga (I haven't read the english yet) and I found the art to be charming and the toning to be clean and refreshing.
The manga might seem like a "mess" because it was created for people already familiar with the characters and setting  .
To be completely fair to the series, Viz might want to license the original games - but because girls-side dating-games are virtually unknown in North America, it might be a huge financial risk so I can see why they wouldn't do it. Also yes, the TV anime is excellent - story, music, animation, action, drama, etc are all top notch (they had a good animation budget!). It might clarify the story for you, and you might even enjoy HaruToki. Someone mentioned it is a ripoff of Fushigi Yuugi, but please remember that FY isn't original either, it is based on the same Cultural Mythology. |
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CloverKuroba
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I found the art to be clean, but pretty generic shojo art.
And I think, even though you say it's made for people familar with the franchise, I would think that it would be fair to have better pacing and actually give us a better introduction to the characters, setting, etc... This manga was very badly-paced. And if it really was made for people who knew the franchise, Viz made a bad choice by putting it in the magazine, because here in the States, I wouldn't expect HaruToki isn't well-known. And about the anime...I've heard some good thing about it, but then again, I've heard some very bad things about it. I'll need to check it out for myself. |
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HitokiriShadow
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I hope you don't mean to imply that this somehow excuses the manga.
Having some basis on history or mythology is one thing. Shonen Onmyouji and Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi are both based on Abe no Seimei. But having similarities as close as FY and Haruka is another. Fushigi Yuugi may have some basis in mythology but I'm sure it is not nearly a copy of it. That said, I have no idea what direction Haruka goes, but based on what's happened so far, I wouldn't call it a rip off... it changes enough that I couldn't honestly call it that. But there are a good number of similarities. |
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Terrestrial_Cel
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The first chapter is rushed because the creator wanted to give every member of the cast page-time to please the fans who had already played the game. The plot and character development will come. If the first chapter is a dud, well it's unfortunate, and it happens. I just hope HaruToki can prove itself to Shojo Beat readers soon enough
Viz seems to think so.
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HitokiriShadow
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Yes, I figure there is a possibility that they were rushing through the first chapter for whatever reason. And I really hope they fix things in the future chapters. Still, the first chapter was horrible.
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Kagemusha
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Because its a FY rip-off? |
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HitokiriShadow
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Well, chapter 3 is still a bit confusing at times due to questionable page layouts but at least it feels like one chapter, not 3-4 crammed into one.
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marie-antoinette
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Maybe I should be glad that I missed the first chapter of it then.
I did pick up the latest issue of SB the other day and yeah, the Fushigi Yuugi similarities are rather glaring. Then again, the idea of a number of guardians has been used elsewhere as well, such as in RG Veda which I think predates FY. So far, I like the fact that our main character whose name I don't remember is drawn to the "demon" guy. That could be interesting. Though the fact that the attributes of the demon tribe are the exact same as FY's Nakago who spoiler[was also from a tribe thought of as being evil/cursed/etc...] just increases the whole rip-off feeling. |
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HitokiriShadow
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I don't mind similarities to Fushigi Yuugi, but so far, its done little to distinguish itself and it has a number of problems in execution. This is the first chapter that has a remotely decent pace and covers a decent amount of material for its page count. It still leaves something to be desired in clarity and character development. I'm really annoyed at spoiler[the way the main character is "falling in love" with the demon guy. It's not that she's falling in love with him, its that all of the characters are too one dimensional to care yet and the way its happening is so horribly cliched and lazy.]
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