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#847198
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Saw the movie last night. Agree with you that longtime fans will have no issue enjoying the movie. They nailed the original feeling I felt when watching the TV show. The first movie... not so much.
I still don't understand why so much is the same from the tv show but they decided to change Motoko. Her attitude, journey, and interactions with the world was a HUGE part of the original in my opinion and this Motoko completely changes that. I find myself asking... Why? I guess to cash in again on GiTS they had to change something. I kept hoping they would tie a personality of the original Motoko into the story but it didn't happen. |
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zztop
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Does Masamune Shirow still contribute to the GiTS franchise?
Last I heard he was mostly into drawing erotic artbooks. |
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Wrangler
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My understanding, Masamune Shirow is basically not involved with series anymore. He does technical advising, but that was in previous incarnation of the franchise. I wish he would revisit the universe in Manga form again, but i don't think it will happen. I like his 2.0 sequel, but i doubt we'll see adaption to it since it so involved with the original manga's plot. |
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BVerfG
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I actually liked that they toned down the philosophical aspects somewhat. I found Innocence rather confusing tbh. This was more like the Psycho-Pass movie to me, more action oriented but still with a decent plot and some interesting themes.
I didn't dislike the OST, but then again as long as it isn't mega annoying or exceptionally good I don't pay too much attention to it. All in all I think B+ is about right, I'd rate it 8/10. Even though I never liked how GitS changed up things from iteration to iteration and you basically end up with having 5 continuties you have to make sense of. The most important thing about the Arise Version to me is, that it seems to have been successful and so there might just be a chance for SAC 3rd GiG? Want it badly. |
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maximilianjenus
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(or the Alternative Architecture TV series, which is just the five OVAs split into two regular-length episodes each)
afaik, this is slightly inacurate, since the ovas are just 4 originally and the 5th ova/arc does not exist as an ova but rather as two episodes that might or might not become a fifth ova.
rumour is that he is already dead and one of his assistants is drawing the erotic material using his penname. |
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TheMorry
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Sexy ANN, a dub version aka English version is available already but a Japanese sub version is not? Funimation got a secret early dub going on? xD
I would love if I.G. would create a 3rd season or something. |
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CoreSignal
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I thought the movie was a solid watch, but parts of it were underwhelming. I actually thought the first half was a little better than the second half. There's plenty of interesting themes as always for GITS, like privatization of military, cybernetic enhancements, but its mostly surface level. My two issues with the story was that Firestarter virus concept pretty much gets dropped in the second half, which is disappointing, because I feel the virus concept is unique to Arise and as the review says, it's never really explained fully explain. My other issue is the main antagonist/"villian" being spoiler[Kurutsu] is really bland. I think the latter was the most underwhelming part of the whole movie. Honestly, I thought Col. Hozumi (the robot face lady) from eps.3-4 was a much more interesting villian. Other than that, I liked how this movie focused more on the characters. Lastly, the animation looks great. The action scenes were some of the best in the franchise. Personally, I thought the movie was overall on par with Solid State Society.
Uh...the whole point of Arise is depict a younger, brasher version of Motoko and the rest of section 9. She's not supposed to be the same as she is in the movies or SAC.
I sure hope so. I heard Arise did pretty well sales-wise in Japan, so contrary to popular belief, GITS isn't something only the West likes. If they could reassemble the SAC staff again for a 3rd season, that'd be awesome. As for Shirow's involvement, he's pretty much out of the scene nowadays. Well, he's involved with the Pandora in the Crimson Shell manga, which is quite different, lol. Shirow was actually pretty involved with SAC. Kamiyama has said that Shirow came up with story treatments for many of the episodes. Unfortunately with Arise, he just approved the character designs and that was it. |
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partially
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I don't think it was a cash in per se. More their choice of bringing Tow Ubukata onboard. If you have read any of his other work, this version of the Major falls very much in line with his work. As to why he was brought aboard and allowed to do said changes, well who knows. It may be as simple as CoreSignal states, that they wanted a younger, brasher Major. I don't think the personality fits, but, opinions. |
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Key
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I don't think the personality is a major change, though. Motoko could always be a bit harsh-edged, after all.
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#847198
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No offense but you need to rewatch the tv show. Its not comparable. The Arise Motoko is rash, treats her men like peons, emotional and personally comes off as just a hardened Solider who likes kicking butt. The SAC Motoko is always confident with a big smile on her face. She is harsh, yes, but not in the same way. She is almost omnipotent in SAC but above all she seeks the truth and has a philosophical nature. Its by far the biggest difference between the two series. Last edited by #847198 on Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:45 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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#847198
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My thoughts exactly. Arise is the origin story for everyone but the main character??? Can't agree with that. I liked the movie and I'm glad I can say that now. But when Arise started I really disliked it. |
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eely225
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I mean, the differences with the Major's character don't really bother me. Yes, it's a "prequel," but it's the origin story of a GitS universe we've never seen before. We can pretend that the original movies line up perfectly with SAC or that Arise feeds into SAC, but they ultimately contradict each other too much. SAC will always be the king to me, but I enjoy seeing another universe in which versions of these characters get together.
Also, the movie really highlighted how different the Paz, Borma, and Saito characters are from SAC too, but I guess that's less in your face (i.e. since when does Saito have a murder fetish?) |
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AiddonValentine
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The sad part is trying to have Kusanagi act harsher really doesn't work. It's like watching a little kid try to act tough and looking like a joke. Ubakata clearly does not get the character and in turn has just written a caricature with "but it's supposed to be a new universe!" as a convenient excuse to deflect criticism when comparisons between this and the superior film and SAC counterparts come up.
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anddo
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Nah, the Pyrophoric Cult episode is indeed border 5 of the OVA, but was first seen separated into those two AAA episodes early in the year. The uncut version of that border was released standalone in August. |
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unready
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I found rather a lot of the movie to be derivative of SAC in ways SAC stood apart from the manga. The redo of the first movie opening scene was just the last thing to be derivative, since it was the last scene. |
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