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REVIEW: Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya 2wei Herz!

jymmy wrote:

While Gilgamesh did really exist in FSN, Ea did not actually create the world. It's a hax weapon, but it's a Noble Phantasm at the end of the day.

That was never specified in the anime or manga. As viewers we have to take what the characters say as fact UNLESS it revealed they were either lying, misinformed or the story uncovers the truth later. Gil straight up told told us it was used to create the world. If he was at half power that still means the weapon would be powerful enough to wreck earth.

leatherhead333 wrote:

jymmy wrote: While Gilgamesh did really exist in FSN, Ea did not actually create the world. It's a hax weapon, but it's a Noble Phantasm at the end of the day. That was never specified in the anime or manga. As viewers we have to take what the characters say as fact UNLESS it revealed they were either lying, misinformed or the story uncovers the truth later. Gil straight up told told us it was used to create the world. If he was at half power that still means the weapon would be powerful enough to wreck earth.

Right, but Gilgamesh is a Heroic Spirit born from a Class Card, an item created by humans for use in the Holy Grail War. He's a mythical hero in the context of the story as presented to you. It makes no sense that he would have a weapon that literally created the world. Ea is conceived in myth as having done so, and because of this it has the ability to destroy Reality Marbles and the miniature world things the Heroic Spirits appear in.

This is all pretty basic Fate/stay night stuff, and even though Illya explains it perfectly well, I think, the fact that it's a spinoff assumes you already know this.

I'm actually not familiar with Fate Night. Fate Illya is the first fate series I've watched. Even saying that I think spin offs should still explain these things just as well as their original shows. I remember watching the Rock Lee SD spinoff and noticed that they ALWAYS gave context if they were referencing a character or event from the original show. They even somewhat explained ninjutsu. And that was a comedic heavy show. Fate Illya doesn't really explain how much magic can be applied to it's world. We've seen Rin use spell to maginify the power of an attack and use it to make herself lighter. How does that work and what exactly are the limitations of it? Can people use it to fly? Really none of that is talked about. So it leaves a third wheel like me wondering how it's all supposed to work.

So to someone like me I don't see a reason to not believe what he's said. Gil doesn't seem like the kind of person who would use that as an intimidation tactic or wouldn't know that it wasn't as powerful as he was thinking.

I'm actually not familiar with Fate Night. Fate Illya is the first fate series I've watched. Even saying that I think spin offs should still explain these things just as well as their original shows.

Fate Illya doesn't really explain how much magic can be applied to it's world. We've seen Rin use spell to maginify the power of an attack and use it to make herself lighter. How does that work and what exactly are the limitations of it? Can people use it to fly? Really none of that is talked about.

Something contextually important to toss out is that in the source manga, spoiler[the fight gets concluded BUT as soon as our heroines are breathing a sigh of release the two shadowy figures appear and warp the cast unto what will become the setting of Drei.
The final manga scene is Irisviel shocked to her core as the fate of her daughters is beyond her power.
By giving a "moment of respite" takes away the original impact on the end of the 2wei chapter.
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[EDIT: Never spoiler tag an entire post. You must provide some context about why it's tagged. - Key]

While reading your review, seeing you slap, "More than half of the series is inane drivel, still plays around too much with loli undertones." next to a big red (-) sign, and next to your grades+staff makes it easy to assume you marked it down because of it. To a reader, it seems like this is your, and thus ANN's, judgement upon the whole matter. Easy to see why some kind of opposition would form, doesn't it? I am well aware that one reviewer does not make the whole of ANN's stance on something, but others will not have that knowledge. In this review I assumed you had marked it down because of the above problems, I hope you see why.

But in some cases it's well deserved things blow up in your(ANN's) faces when you throw a burning stick over the fence and expect nothing to happen.

Regardless it all comes down to visual representation to me. When a character suddenly has a powerup like this it merely feels cheap if they don't suffer some kind of consequence for it. Rock Lee/Guy from Naruto using the Eight Gates is a good example of power that brings bodily harm to it's usage. The powerup might have originally came out of no where but when you see the price they both paid for using it there is a fair trade off there.

Being too neutral in a review also comes across as too passive, and that is something that's frowned upon.