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Aquamine-Amarine
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No one complained about the female only Sailor Moon Usagi birthday event a year or so ago. Get a life people.
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CCTakato
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That was to prevent sexual harassment and from creepy otaku from taking over the event. There's no legitimate excuse for this that's been presented and yet anime fans wonder why everyone else hates them when they make excuses for blatant discrimination. There's no hope for humanity when discrimination is justified with "get a life."
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mewpudding101
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Men were allowed as guests? And yeah, that was to prevent sexual harassment. 1) The application was in a fashion magazine FOR WOMEN. 2) If you go to many shojo events, a majority of people there are actually creepy otaku guys, not the intended audience. Because this was a fashion event by Vivi, they wanted the women to feel safe. |
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CrownKlown
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Do you see the hypocrisy in your own words. You say men were not allowed at the event because it wasn't targeted at them, and also made over generalizations that apparently any male who wanted to go would be a creepy otaku, by that token clearly the target audience of this event is men, because the god dam organizers themselves made it explicitly so. Clearly women are not the intended audience. |
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Mr. Oshawott
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But...was that event government-sponsored?
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Lemonchest
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But men's rights, hippocrisy, political correctness & yada yada yada.
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killjoy_the
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Well at least they're creative with this stuff |
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Alan45
 Village Elder Posts: 10012 Location: Virginia |
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Boy can you tell it is a different culture. Even if the law permitted, I can't see anyone setting up a concert here where you couldn't take a date. I can't imagine a concert hall or stadium with nothing but sweaty guys.
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traveling
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Before people go mouthing about sexism, they should read the article to understand why the group is complaining. There's a legitimate argument that goes beyond gender discrimination.
Is this a set up for a not all men argument? |
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Foxaika
 Posts: 365 Location: Columbus, Ohio |
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What makes it a bit tricky for me is that the local government is involved. Other than that, I'm not sure I care. Have events with only men or women. Not that big of a deal in my opinion. Having the government support it could lead to some unfortunate implications however.
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VanGosroth
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Anything funded with public money should be open to everyone.
Had this been a private event I'd be all for banning whatever the hell they wanted to. |
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Kadmos1
 Posts: 13615 Location: In Phoenix but has an 85308 ZIP |
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Yet, that same group might turn a blind eye if it was the opposite.
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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A municipal body should not be in the business of funding gender-segregated events.
However, the actual fact that the concert itself is gender segregated doesn't concern me, as there have been numerous female-only events over the years. (And with that aforementioned Sailor Moon event, men had to come with their girlfriends which basically eliminates a huge number of guys, so it was in practice female-only). As long as both genders get their own concerts then it balances out. Both the location and the for-profit status don't bother me either, and neither should be made into issues. |
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CrowLia
 Posts: 5528 Location: Mexico |
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I wonder if there will come a day in which something related to discrimination against women doesn't immediately trigger a "but if this were men you wouldn't call it discrimination" response by half the people who read it.
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Hellsoldier
 Posts: 815 Location: Porto,Portugal,Europe,Earth,Sol |
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I already find a (insert gender or other category)-specific concert nonsense... But then you get public sponsorship involved, and you should be ready for a nice (nasty) surprise. Public sponsored events are for the general public.
As for the above-mentioned Sailor Moon event... Surely there aren't male fans of the series, right? (Sarcasm) And sure, all of the men that would come would be creepy perverts, rights? (Sarcasm, again) And surely, there aren't gay fans of the series, right? (Need I say more?) Has anyone though of just increasing security in these events? Honestly, if one day a lesbian or bi creepy pervert comes in to one of these all-girl events, I'll say: Try to segregate this. But knowing how crazy some people are, maybe some events would ban LGBT from entering all together (Japan has no national ban on discrimination)... No can do, this is a bad outcome. I don't want that to happen. Or maybe I'm overthinking it. But seriously, these events are just a bad idea. Just increase safety. |
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