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anifani
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:40 pm
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That's pretty sad. In North America, if you're an adult raising a family on that salary, you are considered poverty level.
However, if your fresh out of high school, might not be a bad job to get your feet wet in the industry.
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maximilianjenus
Joined: 29 Apr 2013
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:45 pm
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in emxico that salary makes you top middle class and you have to work weekends to earn it.
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ParaSitius
Joined: 19 Feb 2012
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:49 pm
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I earn double that and I'm currently in a dead end data entry job with zero responsibility. Screw that for a game of soldiers.
Deffo a school leavers level of pay job.
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Engineering Nerd
Joined: 24 Apr 2008
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Location: Southern California
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:55 pm
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So....
let's say if you got hired in a relatively bigger animation production company, say Sunrise (except division 9), Madhouse, Production IG (including Wit), Bones, etc; can we actually expect slightly higher wages than what Diomedea and Arms offer?
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wastrel
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:06 pm
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Regardless of the salary, can any new production assistants be empowered to beat the crap out of any director who thinks cramming over half the plot and story of a show into the last two episodes is a good idea?
Yes, I'm still bitter over Brynhildr in the Darkness. What a waste of potential.
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vonPeterhof
Joined: 10 Nov 2014
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:17 pm
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I have no idea what percentage of ANN's readership actually resides in Japan, but I don't see a point in posting such articles unless the company is offering working visa sponsorships. It isn't explicitly mentioned in the description, so I doubt that they are. In fact, very few Japanese companies would offer those for entry level positions, and those that would are likely to do so for jobs that are seen as requiring some foreign expertise (most commonly language-related work, but also some positions dealing with foreign markets and/or multinational corporations).
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Hameyadea
Joined: 23 Jun 2014
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:22 pm
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anifani wrote: | That's pretty sad. In North America, if you're an adult raising a family on that salary, you are considered poverty level.
However, if your fresh out of high school, might not be a bad job to get your feet wet in the industry. |
maximilianjenus wrote: | in emxico that salary makes you top middle class and you have to work weekends to earn it. |
And that is why just converting the currency without any additional info isn't recommended. Different countries, different expenses & livability ranges.
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ANN_Lynzee
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:32 pm
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vonPeterhof wrote: | I have no idea what percentage of ANN's readership actually resides in Japan, but I don't see a point in posting such articles unless the company is offering working visa sponsorships. It isn't explicitly mentioned in the description, so I doubt that they are. In fact, very few Japanese companies would offer those for entry level positions, and those that would are likely to do so for jobs that are seen as requiring some foreign expertise (most commonly language-related work, but also some positions dealing with foreign markets and/or multinational corporations). |
The article is for the purpose of illustrating working conditions in the anime industry in Japan. I'm not sure any of our readers outside of Japan would be interested in taking such a position, with the cost of living in Japan and how low the pay is.
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mangamuscle
Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:47 pm
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vonPeterhof wrote: | I don't see a point in posting such articles unless the company is offering working visa sponsorships. |
In journalism this kind of articles are cyclic news. This could have been published one, five, ten, twenty etc. years ago (or in the future), just change the name of the company, update (maybe) the amount offered (which will be paltry by modern japanese standards) and leave the name of the position unchanged.
Local newspaper does that all the with articles about potholes in the road, since they are repaired every year but at most resist for three years (which is the time span of a city mayor rule).
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Lemonchest
Joined: 18 Mar 2015
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:01 pm
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By anime from the old days, are they talking about the days they made porn?
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vonPeterhof
Joined: 10 Nov 2014
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:06 pm
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octopodpie wrote: | The article is for the purpose of illustrating working conditions in the anime industry in Japan. I'm not sure any of our readers outside of Japan would be interested in taking such a position, with the cost of living in Japan and how low the pay is. |
I apologize for my overreaction, I guess I took the first paragraph a bit too seriously. It's just that I've been looking for a job where I can apply my Japanese skills for some time now, so posts like these tend to draw my attention. And no, even I'm not desperate enough to work for that salary. It's just that whenever I see a posting for work in Japan the first thing I check for is whether or not the company is offering visa sponsorships, and only after that do I check the work specifics and calculate the suitability of the salary for the costs of life.
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Spotlesseden
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:48 pm
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ParaSitius wrote: | I earn double that and I'm currently in a dead end data entry job with zero responsibility. Screw that for a game of soldiers.
Deffo a school leavers level of pay job. |
i still would take the job that pay half, but has a good chance to move up.
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Razor/Edge
Joined: 05 Jun 2015
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:27 pm
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octopodpie wrote: |
vonPeterhof wrote: | I have no idea what percentage of ANN's readership actually resides in Japan, but I don't see a point in posting such articles unless the company is offering working visa sponsorships. It isn't explicitly mentioned in the description, so I doubt that they are. In fact, very few Japanese companies would offer those for entry level positions, and those that would are likely to do so for jobs that are seen as requiring some foreign expertise (most commonly language-related work, but also some positions dealing with foreign markets and/or multinational corporations). |
The article is for the purpose of illustrating working conditions in the anime industry in Japan. I'm not sure any of our readers outside of Japan would be interested in taking such a position, with the cost of living in Japan and how low the pay is. |
Has an American (or anyone not Japanese, for that matter) ever actually made it to director or producer and actually been successful at it?
The way I understand Japan's view toward foreigners (and especially Americans), I'd be really shocked if a person from outside Japan actually got a high ranking position at an anime company. (or maybe it's just the older Japanese that are this way because of WWII. But i'd think those would be in charge of promotion decisions.)
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Hoppy800
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:37 pm
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Another week another studio posting a job listing with unacceptably low pay. This needs to change like ASAP, it is damaging Japan's image.
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Mr. Oshawott
Joined: 12 Mar 2012
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:39 pm
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Well...At least the person looking into becoming a production assistant will get an idea of what it will be like working within the anime industry.
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