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BigOnAnime
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It's still a bit ridiculous how it took FUNimation this long to use the correct logo. For a few years they've been inconsistent. The packaging would use Geneon Universal (Though now they have to change that for newer titles), and discs sometimes would use the old Geneon logo or the Universal logo (I really need to check my discs and ask some people again), sometimes both across the whole release (I think this happened with Hellsing Ultimate). This really is the logo they should have been playing on EVERYTHING for years now. I should have been seeing this on say Tokyo Ravens from the start, not the old Geneon logo.
Also regarding Warner Bros. and entering the anime market, I doubt it. The only reason they're releasing JoJo is probably because Warner Bros. Japan got tired of trying to find someone that would want the show (Or was willing to pay enough), and pitched it to their parent, that's it. They're already doing something questionable though, those 3 discs for the entire first season, not 4... Hopefully it turns out good. Then there's also the $50 MSRP price point for a dubbed release, seems too low. |
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Hameyadea
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About the logo change:
I think most people got confused not neccesarily because the Universal logo was shown at the start of this cour's shows like Arslan Senki or Owari no Seraph, but because the change in logos was mid-run. IIRC, the first 2-3 episodes of both of the aforementioned shows had the FUNImation snippet, and after the 4th-or-so episode, the Universal logo showed up. |
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kevinx59
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Hasn't it been Geneon Universal for a while now? Unlimited Blade Works and High School of the Dead had the logo and they are 5 years old now. They changed to just the universal logo last year I think, or maybe earlier. Anyways I think it's pretty cool that these big movie companies have an interest in anime, at least in Japan. Plus both Warner and Universal have great music artists. And is it just me or do they seem to have some kind of relationship with each other? Shana, Nogizaki no Himitsu, To Love Ru, Railgun/Index, all were originally released by Universal, all had their latest seasons released by Warner.
I've wondered why the companies don't just release they l their titles in the US themselves. Not that I mind the current arrangement. Funi and Sentai have more knowledge about how to sell and market their anime. On the other hand if Universal and Warner release things themselves they may give the anime more exposure (not to mention probably package and release the series like how they do for their TV series, which means that anime may be even more affordable and more visible on shelves). Interesting times for sure, and I'm eager to see how Jojo works for Warner. I could see them releasing certain series (like maybe Terraformers) themselves. |
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Polycell
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That said, I really hope that this doesn't become more common: the big studios can be very skittish about their images and, if they're releasing what their Japanese branches produce, we likely won't get it over here. Remember what happened with Ro-kyu-bu? If they manage to make things too popular, things like Loliball might not even be possible anymore since they'd be too worried about protecting their image. |
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yuna49
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Shingeki no Bahamut: Genesis clearly had higher than average budgets and lists NBCUniversal as a producer. Whether that money came from Comcast, or whether it came from Cygames, I don't really know. Cygames itself reported revenues of $1.8 billion in 2012; the entire anime industry grossed about $2.4 billion that year. |
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leafy sea dragon
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I can't afford to eat sushi every week (unless it's like...one plate at a revolving sushi place). But if you smell like fish, Justin, at least you can officially be an eskimo.
I find that major studios tend not to be too interested in playing by the rules of niche markets they might fall into, but once they get the hang of it, they can function quite well.
Yeah, I remember seeing old Popeye cartoons where Popeye would say something that wasn't animated. I wondered why for the longest time, and I later found out they were ad-libbed. I had a feeling that there wasn't the resources to re-animated these scenes, but I didn't have a good explanation until now. Thanks.
If there are few or no special features, 3 discs seems perfectly fine to me. And as a consumer, I like my prices as low as possible. I mainly get my anime home releases from clearance sales. |
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jr240483
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unfortunately it also pissed off diehard anime otakus,especially those from the 90's giving them all the excuses they need to justify their hate for when american hollywood companies get their hold of anime licenses.
not necessarily answerman. dont forget the japaneese division of universal is a whole different animal than the parent company in hollywood. they have different standard and practices which means they (the japan division) would probably do things to appease the japaneese auidence and their otaku community. now if this was the US parent branch of Universal then hell yea you should be concerned,but considering that its not, i dont see any reason to panic just yet unless they start acting more and more like their hollywood counterparts or if the US branch start putting their weight and muscle on the choices and decisions of universal japan. |
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John Thacker
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I guarantee that the traditional US niche localization companies were interested in Jojo's. Viz got a license to be the "master merchandiser" for Jojo's overall and has been releasing recent manga (which has been making the NYT best sellers list for manga.) If the parent company WB was willing to pay more money than anyone else, then that's a pretty clear expression of interest. They wouldn't bother to release it at all if they thought it would lose money in the US (or cannibalize sales via reverse importation too much.)
Weird, you think that the Japanese rights holders all treat the American audience the same as they do the Japanese audience, and don't suggest various "adaptations" in an attempt to make something more mainstream and win bigger marketshare? (Take a look at Enoki Films pitches for anime not that long ago.) Or don't try to make a release somewhat worse or at least different than the Japanese release in order to discourage reverse importation hurting their lucrative domestic sales? Or on the other hand, like Pony Canyon and to some degree Aniplex, might try to bring Japanese market prices to the US? We already had a bit of a failure with Jojo's itself before, with Super Techno Arts (a US facing division of a Japanese company.) The Japanese divisions are very familiar with the Japanese audience. That doesn't mean that they are familiar with American fandom. |
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Kadmos1
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It's true that an entertainment company would likely be more familiar with their native audiences vs. their foreign audiences. However, they might be getting a better idea of understanding their foreign audiences when they establish a company branch for a particular company. For example, in '09, Kadokawa Pictures did have an American division where they were pitching some of their anime titles. The only 1 I really recall was Chrome Shelled Regios. |
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PurpleWarrior13
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In Australia, all Geneon/Universal titles are released by Universal Sony Pictures Home Entertainment (their local home video divisions merged). Madman even said that all Geneon titles are off-limits in that territory.
I'm surprised they haven't attempted to do the same here. I wouldn't mind seeing Hollywood studios do a lot more with anime, as long as their releases were similar in format to FUNi, Viz, Sentai, etc. And yeah, more and more anime releases appear to begin with the licensor AND licensee logos. FUNi's new Blu-ray release of Darker than Black has the Aniplex logo before FUNi's, and Viz's Sailor Moon releases begin with both the Viz and Toei logos. |
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SEGAtheGENESIS234
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Is it just me, or does Discotek always license anime that Funimation or any other company would NEVER touch?
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FLCLGainax
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It always amazes me how Discotek is able to track down old English audio for most of their titles. I wish Sentai would do that more often.
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Spotlesseden
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WB is huge in Japan. He made many live Action adaptation of anime/manga such of Kenshin, Death note.
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Tenchi
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whoops wrong thread.
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Sky Captain
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This somewhat reminds me of how people feel about SPT (Sony Pictures Television)'s logo being plastered all over the old Screen Gems logo and the Columbia Pictures Television logo on most DVD's and TV broadcasts, as well as the similar logo plastering that's happened to shows from other older American TV companies. At least the Desilu logo's somewhat intact on a few of CBS's DVD's and TV shows before the CBS Television Distribution logo. |
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