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macattack
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:33 pm
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Holy crap, no wonder Kyoto Animation's projects keep looking so great, then. Their stuff continues to sell and they obviously pick their projects carefully.
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Setsura1
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:34 pm
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If anime ever stops being made then I might as well end myself right then and there.
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Aquamine-Amarine
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:37 pm
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I just thought of this, but doesn't the success of anime also depend on which manga (or light novel, game, etc.) the studio decides to adapt? The more popular the original material is, the more popular the anime will be, right?
...unless fillers kill it. In which case, you deserve to be on that list Satelight.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:40 pm
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Lots goes into deciding what to animate, but unless all of the current and soon-to-be fans stop buying, why the fear of some collapse? Sure it could happen eventually, but it seems so unlikely unless Japan's economy falls apart and no one has any disposable income.
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Zoneflare
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:41 pm
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wow if JC staff had animated more Index and Railgun they might have moved up the chart a bit.
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Blood-
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:48 pm
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Wow, Kyoto really does have the Midas touch. I wonder which two of its titles didn't crack the 3,000 mark? Tamako Market is probably one of them. Anyone know how Hyouka and Amagi Brilliant Park did?
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BigOnAnime
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:53 pm
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This to be honest doesn't really mean much given how the animation studio doesn't really affect the quality of a show outside of animation except for a very select few, such as KyoAni. Typically the studio is simply hired and the production committee chose the director and person doing series composition.
And disc sales aren't purely what make something successful. It can require merchandise, a boost to light novel/manga sales, etc. Ever notice how many shows that sold like crap on disc got another season? But sometimes those things are irrelevant.
Let's take like say Tokyo Ghoul. Shueisha was NOT on the production committee, so the huge boost to the manga sales meant hardly anything.
If you want to TRULY know how successful something actually is, take into account what everyone on the production committee does. Sometimes disc sales will matter, sometimes the manga/LN boost will, other times they won't. TV ratings can matter for late-night anime (Hey there NTV-produced shows), other times not.
On another note regarding this chart, how are they taking into account split-cour shows and the like? Without the list of shows, the context becomes more blurry.
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:58 pm
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Kyoani sells well most of the time, A-1 is doing good as well. DEEN should stop adapting shoujo, no wonder they have a lot of flops, shoujo anime doesn't sell well, although they did make Jewelpet enjoyable for me again. Sunrise's 9th studio should be on the chopping block, it's a complete failure.
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getchman
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:00 pm
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Blood- wrote: | Wow, Kyoto really does have the Midas touch. I wonder which two of its titles didn't crack the 3,000 mark? Tamako Market is probably one of them. Anyone know how Hyouka and Amagi Brilliant Park did? |
Hyouka averaged 10k. Amagi has two more volumes to go, but right now it's averaging 6.5k over 5 volumes.
Tamako's total average was 3811
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:02 pm
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The other title for KyoAni must have been Munto. No one remembers Munto.
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maximilianjenus
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:04 pm
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the other kyoani show that sold worse than tamako market was so bad we don't even remember which show it was.
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Swiftyy
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:05 pm
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Nichijou sold pretty bad if I remember correctly?
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Tempest_Wing
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:05 pm
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[quote="ShanaFan852"]This to be honest doesn't really mean much given how the animation studio doesn't really affect the quality of a show outside of animation except for a very select few, such as KyoAni. Typically the studio is simply hired and the production committee chose the director and person doing series composition.
If that were true though, then the success rate of these companies would be at parity with each other. In other words, if the animation studios really don't affect the quality of a show then how are the first 15 studios listed, the least successful? Are they just that unlucky? There would have had to have been a concerted effort for only 17 out of 65 animes released by Studio Deen for example to be successful, if what you're saying is true.
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Gasero
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:06 pm
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Now I'm curious to know if any of the numbers are a result of marketing or if it is all studio quality animation.
Ironically I can recognize many of the failing studios, but only a couple of the successful studio names.
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Mr. Oshawott
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:06 pm
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walw6pK4Alo wrote: | No one remembers Munto. |
Then I must be the exception, since I watched both movies of Munto a while back within the last year.
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