Forum - View topicNEWS: Yūsaku Shibata's Yoakemono Manga Ends in Shonen Jump
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Kadmos1
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Unless this was mean to be a brief series, it sounds like it wasn't doing well.
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Jajanken
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Oh my god are you serious? I thought this manga finished like 3 years ago...
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Ali07
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I've always wondered how some manga series get judged and then cancelled. Don't know if it is the case with this series, but if it's actually one that has been cancelled, how'd they decide this? Polls or surveys?
I ask because its first collected volume isn't out until December, so it isn't based on sales...? |
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Ushio
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This site (http://weeklyjump.livejournal.com/) has the rankings and any new series that gets in bottom 5 is at risk (unless it sells 200,000 plus copy's a volume). |
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Darkmagick
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Those aren't actually rankings - they're the table of contents of each week's Jump. I believe the general belief is that, minus color page placement, they tend to reflect how well the series did on surveys 8 weeks previously? (It's been a while since I've followed it regularly, take that number with a grain of salt - especially since I don't think it was ever actually confirmed.) |
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Utsuro no Hako
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Read Bakuman. It explains everything you'll ever need to know about Shonen Jump. |
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Somewhere
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WSJ issues come with polling postcards, so readers can fill them out and mail them in. There's debate over how reflective the table of contents are with the internal rankings and how far in the past they go, but the main takeaway agreed on is that being a bottom dweller for a long period of time is a very bad sign.
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Kadmos1
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One way of looking at is that has enough material to make a few OVA episodes without filler.
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CrowLia
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^Which will never happen because it was clearly axed due to impopularity. More people need to read Bakuman to understand why series get killed so quickly in the wild jungle of WSJ.
Kind of a shame since I really like historical manga/anime and the art looks decent |
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Cyclone1993
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This manga didn't even exist three years ago... The Table of Contents, like others have said is pretty much the ranking for the series. That's why series near the bottom tend to go pretty quickly. They put the series people want to read in the front of the magazine, and the less popular stuff goes in the back. Sporting Salt will probably be next. It had its first rank in this issue, and the only series it did better than was Yoakemono, who had its final chapter... |
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veemonjosh
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Are you perhaps thinking of a different series? |
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doubleO7
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You didn't read the whole article, did you? This manga started back in July. It only lasted about 4 months. |
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Ali07
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It is on my 'to read' list. I'm tempted buy that box set, but with Christmas coming soon, I won't have the funds to spend $100+ on something just for me. Hopefully I'll be getting that one soon! Also, thanks to those that answered my question. So they do use surveys to kill off series. I just would've thought they'd first see how a manga volume goes before doing that, but I guess they've been using surveys for awhile...so they should be a good reflection of what people will buy. |
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MajinAkuma
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Yoakemono wasn't included in the ranking because final chapters are never included in the ranking. Sporting Salt got the last place. |
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Somewhere
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You've got the gist, but to expand a bit further... A series doesn't necessarily have to sell well to survive. Gag series that poll well but sell relatively poorly typically hang around, for example. The rule of thumb question is basically, 'is this series making money for Shueisha?' High volume sales are self explanatory. High merchandise revenue also works (Gintama). High survey results? It means the series is pulling in/keeping readers for the magazine. The magazine itself makes some cash through subscriptions/sales, naturally. And it's also an advertisement vehicle. Not only for the volumes themselves, but ads in general. WSJ's circulation is somewhere between 2.5 and 3 million; the ad space has some value. |
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