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Waraich
Joined: 25 Mar 2013
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:05 am
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i dont get the US.. its alright to open carry guns but its not okey to carry a sword that isnt even meant to be used as a weapon?
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terran3020
Joined: 17 Oct 2013
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:11 am
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but most gun owners don't go pointing it a people/fiddling around with them in public???
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Saku-dono
Joined: 14 Feb 2014
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:22 am
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At this point, I can't believe anything the press said. Something like shooting a cosplayer who had abruptly withdraw the sword seems like a convenient lie... But I'm not saying it's an absolute.
There's an awful lot of similar cases where police authorities abuse their gun right.
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Joe anime
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:23 am
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I'm not suprised,police officers see black people as more of a threat then white people.
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dtm42
Joined: 05 Feb 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:25 am
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We only have the officers' words that he attacked them with the sword. It's been proven that they lied about many aspects of the case, so I cannot trust anything they say at all.
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penguintruth
Joined: 08 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:27 am
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Yeah, six bullets to the back, totally justified, nothing to see here, right?
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shiranehito
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:30 am
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But according to witnesses, the sword-wielding man didn't attack the officer and they said he didn't even take the sword off the sheath. Also, it doesn't seem like that guy was pointing or swinging his sword to random people, or else some other witness would already say something about it.
The sword indeed doesn't look like toy sword, so I guess it was justified for the policemen if that man really did attack them with it.
I don't know if racial issues play a role here, but I heard a case of some paranoid Caucasian male (falsely) reported an African-American guy who walked around with toy rifle in Walmart (which in fact, did sell the rifle) which resulted the black man killed by police before he could even explain. So, even if it's probably not true in this case, racial stereotype is always there. (Plus I must remind you that the mother is Caucasian)
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MasterGhost
Joined: 29 Nov 2011
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:44 am
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Give it time before Ferguson 2.0, 3.0 and more occurs in the US.
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Apollo-kun
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:56 am
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penguintruth wrote: | Yeah, six bullets to the back, totally justified, nothing to see here, right? |
That seems to be their sentiment. I can't even believe that nothing's being done about this. Wait, yes, I can. He's a black male in America, of course his murder is going to be swept under the rug as "justified." Disgusting.
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Enabaka
Joined: 23 Oct 2014
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:01 am
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Just like how there was a report at a wal-mart about a man who seemed suspicious and the cops ended up shooting a black kid who was buying a bb gun at the walmart, they shot him while he was on his phone.
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Lusbox
Joined: 24 Mar 2014
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:10 am
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"Paid administrative leave" is the icing on the cake of murder.
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dtm42
Joined: 05 Feb 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:11 am
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Enabaka wrote: | Just like how there was a report at a wal-mart about a man who seemed suspicious and the cops ended up shooting a black kid who was buying a bb gun at the walmart, they shot him while he was on his phone. |
Let's not forget the cop who asked a black man to show him his driver's license, and when the citizen reached into his car to grab his license the cop then shot at him. Yes, if a citizen is black he is at risk of being shot by police for following their own instructions. Luckily, of the multiple shots that was fired at the citizen only one hit (and that was non-fatal), although it is highly disturbing that even after the citizen raised his hands in surrender the officer still continued to fire.
Thanks to dash-cam footage the officer involved was fired and arrested. Hallelujah. But if no video footage existed at all would the police have really have censured a cop for shooting an unarmed black man who was only obeying his instructions? Probably not. Which is why you should always film all interactions between police and citizens. That's not a joke (not anymore it isn't), that's just common sense. The sooner police are forced to wear cameras the better and safer we will be from them.
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flackenstien
Joined: 30 Jun 2012
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:15 am
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Maybe you shouldn't be swinging a sword around, or at police, okay?..
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shiranehito
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:19 am
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@Enabaka
Yeah, that's the case I was talking about. Except that it's not a black kid. He already had three children.
The difference with this case is that the Walmart "accidental murder" has surveillance camera footage and it is shown that the man, John Crawford, indeed picked up the air rifle in one aisle in Walmart, and when the police charges to him, it is shown that he was shot on his side before he could even face the officer. (The officer claimed that he didn't comply when they told him to put the gun off) He was talking to his wife. Over the phone the wife could listen his last words "It's not real." and him gasping for air.
And even after so many evidence, I heard the police didn't get any charge. What's worse, the man who falsely reported him also didn't get anything.
So, honestly I'm not with the police in this one. The one who claims that Darrien Hunt attacked and swung the sword to the police is just the police, and they can just fabricate any lie and get away with it.
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0seveN
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:21 am
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shiranehito wrote: | But according to witnesses, the sword-wielding man didn't attack the officer and they said he didn't even take the sword off the sheath. |
dtm42 wrote: | We only have the officers' words that he attacked them with the sword. |
According to the Tribune article there were actually two witnesses who both said he unsheathed the sword and swung at the officers.
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