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Ishantil
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:24 am
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I have volume one of this manga from Del Rey. And the printing seems to be messed up. Some of the pages are printed twice (once in the middle, once at the end) and the order of the pages is wrong.
Anyone else have this issue? I emailed Del Rey to see what they thought about it.
Thanks,
Ishantil
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jgreen
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:56 pm
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I would guess you just got a misprinted copy. I'd take it back to wherever you bought it from and exchange it for a normal one.
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Ishantil
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:31 am
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That's what Del Rey said. I'm going to do that this evening at my local comic shop.
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Shugotenshi
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:19 pm
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Ishantil wrote: | I have volume one of this manga from Del Rey. And the printing seems to be messed up. Some of the pages are printed twice (once in the middle, once at the end) and the order of the pages is wrong.
Anyone else have this issue? I emailed Del Rey to see what they thought about it.
Thanks,
Ishantil |
That sucks My copy didn't have any problems, but I've heard of other Del Rey titles that randomly have problem books. It seems really strange that those things can happen to only a few books here and there.
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jgreen
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:54 am
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Shugotenshi wrote: | That sucks  My copy didn't have any problems, but I've heard of other Del Rey titles that randomly have problem books. It seems really strange that those things can happen to only a few books here and there. |
Well, honestly, it's just the reality of the printing business. No matter how awesome your machinery is, eventually you'll have cases where pages get stuck together or accidentally or printed upside-down or whatever. The only way to avoid it is to have someone sit down and read every single copy of every single book, and I don't even want to think of the amount of cost that would add to the final product. It happens to everybody, not just Del Rey, but it's a VERY rare problem, and all you usually have to do is take your book back where you bought it for a corrected version.
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smoochy
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:47 pm
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Probably the biggest issue though is the conent on the paper...
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Subaru19
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:33 pm
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jgreen wrote: |
Shugotenshi wrote: | That sucks  My copy didn't have any problems, but I've heard of other Del Rey titles that randomly have problem books. It seems really strange that those things can happen to only a few books here and there. |
Well, honestly, it's just the reality of the printing business. No matter how awesome your machinery is, eventually you'll have cases where pages get stuck together or accidentally or printed upside-down or whatever. The only way to avoid it is to have someone sit down and read every single copy of every single book, and I don't even want to think of the amount of cost that would add to the final product. It happens to everybody, not just Del Rey, but it's a VERY rare problem, and all you usually have to do is take your book back where you bought it for a corrected version. |
To play devils advocate here for a second, the only manga that I've ever seen with these problems have all come from Del Rey's printing presses. In my limited time of buying translated manga the only time I've ever seen glaring errors, such as white on black text being unreadable or scuff marks on pages, has been from Del Rey. I wonder if it has something to do with their specific ways of doing things?
Also I've never seen a regular book with printed pages upside down (I suppose if it does happen it's really rare as you say), but so far I've seen two different cases of problems in two different Del Rey series. From what I've seen it can't be as rare as you seem to think. At least for them. In fact when I clicked on this topic I had my sneaking suspicions that this would be about a Del Rey release and I wasn't proven wrong.
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Shugotenshi
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:54 pm
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Subaru19 wrote: |
To play devils advocate here for a second, the only manga that I've ever seen with these problems have all come from Del Rey's printing presses. In my limited time of buying translated manga the only time I've ever seen glaring errors, such as white on black text being unreadable or scuff marks on pages, has been from Del Rey. I wonder if it has something to do with their specific ways of doing things?
Also I've never seen a regular book with printed pages upside down (I suppose if it does happen it's really rare as you say), but so far I've seen two different cases of problems in two different Del Rey series. From what I've seen it can't be as rare as you seem to think. At least for them. In fact when I clicked on this topic I had my sneaking suspicions that this would be about a Del Rey release and I wasn't proven wrong. |
Very true, this whole page switcheroo problem seems to lean heavily towards Del Rey. But in all fairness, I have seen smudged pages from every publisher but Broccoli Books and I've seen text cut off by just about every publisher. And TP seems to have a real problem with crooked pages over the years.
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Subaru19
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:19 pm
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Shugotenshi wrote: |
Subaru19 wrote: |
To play devils advocate here for a second, the only manga that I've ever seen with these problems have all come from Del Rey's printing presses. In my limited time of buying translated manga the only time I've ever seen glaring errors, such as white on black text being unreadable or scuff marks on pages, has been from Del Rey. I wonder if it has something to do with their specific ways of doing things?
Also I've never seen a regular book with printed pages upside down (I suppose if it does happen it's really rare as you say), but so far I've seen two different cases of problems in two different Del Rey series. From what I've seen it can't be as rare as you seem to think. At least for them. In fact when I clicked on this topic I had my sneaking suspicions that this would be about a Del Rey release and I wasn't proven wrong. |
Very true, this whole page switcheroo problem seems to lean heavily towards Del Rey. But in all fairness, I have seen smudged pages from every publisher but Broccoli Books and I've seen text cut off by just about every publisher. And TP seems to have a real problem with crooked pages over the years. |
Well I guess I'll take your word for it then. I have had some experiences with really old TokyoPop stuff that actually fell apart on me, so I guess that counts for something eh? And maybe I've overlooked some things in other publisher's works too. Or just wasn't detail oriented enough to pick them up.
(just don't get me started on DelRey translations. I tend to get ranty when it comes to the little I've read of their works )
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jgreen
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:09 am
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I haven't run into much from other manga publishers, but I've had rare printing mistakes in comics and magazines my entire life. I just bought a copy of "Avengers: The Initiative #1" where for the entire issue, the bottom 3/4" of the comic was cut off and an extra 3/4" of blank space was at the top because the sheets weren't fed into the press properly. So it's not *just* Del Rey, although maybe it's possible that they have more lax QA or something checking over the product before it goes out.
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marie-antoinette
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:51 pm
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I've seen other books that have had printing errors, though not any manga. What you have to realize is that Del Rey most likely does not actually print their books themselves, they use a separate company to do it for them. So the only complaint that really affects the manga companies themselves is the choice of what printer they do use, as they aren't responsible for the printing themselves (or so I'm assuming, since almost no publishing houses do such a thing).
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