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Mr. Oshawott
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Well, here's hoping that Pony Canyon's entrance into the U.S. is a positive one...
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Fronzel
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The good times are over!
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BigOnAnime
Encyclopedia Editor
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There is a very good reason why AoA for example on imports has done so for only BD boxes, movies, and OVA's, and never singles. It's because they know those wouldn't do so hot for them. |
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VanGosroth
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I can't tell if you're a shill, a troll, or a fool. You're twiddling your fingers whistling "Oh well. I can tolerate the wallet rape so who cares?" as some company from Japan takes a product that is readily available and octupling the price for nearly the exact same content. You claim you aren't rich yet you are throwing money away. Do the math. Take every series you've bought in the last year. Break it down into 12 episode seasons. Multiply that number by 50. This is on average what you are currently spending assuming every release you bought was a premium edition NISA disk set. This come with all those artbooks and fancy shit I take and throw in my closet. Now take that series tally and multiply it by 370. There is your Japan level pricing. Let's use me as an example. I probably ordered around 25 different series so far this year. I estimate I have paid about 1,250 dollars on anime. If japan had it's way I would have spent $9,250. Even if we use the "japan level us pricing" that aniplex used with sao (160 dollars for 12 eps or so), that's still $4,000. A 300% increase Can you understand why people are getting worried and pissed? You're honestly telling me you wouldn't mind paying 8 thousand dollars you didn't have to? I am not happy. It's going to kill my hobby and I will bitch, moan, argue, and whine about it until the bitter end. |
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Angel M Cazares
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If one day you pay $9,250 in anime for a single year, it means that you buy a lot of anime. This year I will end up buying 40 anime products. Most of what I buy is from Sentai and Funimation. I have bought 6 things from Aniplex USA and imported a few things. That would come to about $2,300. You don't have to buy every thing that comes out. |
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Jajanken
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Bring over Hitman Reborn and Im good
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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What a lovely way to start your post.
It's his money to throw away if he wants to. Buying anime makes him happy and he's currently prepared to pay the prices that he's being charged. Who the !@#$ are you to tell him what he can and cannot spend his own money on?
Oooooooh, you're such a badarse. But seriously, what a waste. NISA makes gorgeous products.
Someone didn't take economics at school. Demand goes down as price goes up, and there's no way you would have bought all twenty-five shows again if they were US$370 each. So no, you wouldn't have spent US$9,250. You'd have changed your behaviour and bought less.
Perhaps he wants to support a hobby he holds dear? To support the creators who make the shows he likes? If he is happy to pay higher prices then what does it matter to you? His buying habits are his concern and your buying habits are your concern. He is not you, so stop pretending that he is. He has a different level of purchasing power and different tastes, plus a different opinion on how important anime is than you do. He's happy where he's at so just leave him alone. |
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Kadmos1
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While people may be loathing such a business decision, we have to wait to see if it's hit/miss when they start releasing/streaming their titles.
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chrisc1978
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I would never buy any anime that cost over $200, also its not likely that they would dub anything in English ether.
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mdo7
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I don't know what to say on this one, but I do agreed with most people on this thread if Pony Canyon start to pull a Aniplex of America-style pricing for US anime fans, that's going to turn off many anime fans from buying that collection (except hardcore fans of certain niche titles). I mean I'm not buying a 200 dollar anime BDs that contain 2-3 episodes (so much overpricing, why Japan, why overpriced stuff).
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animefanworried
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That's one of the thing that pisses me off the most. I love my English dubs, but Aniplex-like business models are so inferior and dumb they can't even afford to dub titles that would otherwise be profitable to dub under a better business model; they can only dub the super, giant, hit-of-the-century titles. Sub-only, volume releases with a few trinkets; how the R1 industry is improving! What's really annoying is how the industry had just recovered from the previous abysmal years following the bubble bursting: Companies were finally getting their act together and things seemed stable, heck we even had people like Discotek returning and NIS put out its first dub. Sure Bandai closed but even they said they were still profitable so it wasn't indicative of a bad market so much as volumes no longer being "in". But now, these money-sucking, harbinger of bad business models decide to make their appearance. Can't the R1 market just get a break and enjoy a good, stable period when it comes for once? |
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SouthPacific
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Inferior and dumb - a recent article on ANN by someone who is in the industry says that Aniplex of America is the industry success story right now, their sales are good and they've been adding more employees. Indeed, what you're saying must be correct! Inferior + dumb = company growth. |
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Tratious
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Bartender is Fuji Creative, Saki and Squid Girl are TV Tokyo. |
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Tratious
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Hoppy800
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I said something similar that I wouldn't spend over $700 on one anime then Idolm@ster came. I had no choice but to pay it since Aniplex are neglectful of the US market like Sega and how they handle Yakuza, you want it bad enough, you import at any cost. |
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