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CatSword
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:24 pm
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yuna49 wrote: | Also on the subject of ratings, I'm especially puzzled by the "M" rating given Dennou Coil in Siren's release. This is a show about ten-year-old kids that was produced by NHK for its Educational service and aired in family-viewing timeslots. Whatever "violence" there is takes place in a virtual reality world, and none of it is gory or excessive. What the heck is "M" about Coil? It would be sad if this rating deterred parents from buying a beautiful show about children and technology. |
I've noticed that before; I think the "supernatural themes" may play a part in it. The OFLC are particularly sensitive about that, to the point where Supernatural, a show targeted at young teens with some occasional fantasy violence, a bit of language and innuendo, gets an MA15+ for the supernatural themes.
What I don't get is the complete series of Chihayafuru being rated M for "coarse language". Even the fansubs didn't go above "damn" and "hell", both of which would be allowed at a PG. M-rated coarse language is normally F-words, slurs, sexual body parts, etc. If Siren put any of that into the subs of Chihayafuru I'd have to scratch that off my list of anime DVDs to import.
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EyeOfPain
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:27 pm
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CatSword wrote: | What I don't get is the complete series of Chihayafuru being rated M for "coarse language". Even the fansubs didn't go above "damn" and "hell", both of which would be allowed at a PG. M-rated coarse language is normally F-words, slurs, sexual body parts, etc. If Siren put any of that into the subs of Chihayafuru I'd have to scratch that off my list of anime DVDs to import. |
Perhaps they take offense at the innuendo in many of the love poems in the hyakunin isshu?
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CatSword
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:44 pm
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EyeOfPain wrote: |
CatSword wrote: | What I don't get is the complete series of Chihayafuru being rated M for "coarse language". Even the fansubs didn't go above "damn" and "hell", both of which would be allowed at a PG. M-rated coarse language is normally F-words, slurs, sexual body parts, etc. If Siren put any of that into the subs of Chihayafuru I'd have to scratch that off my list of anime DVDs to import. |
Perhaps they take offense at the innuendo in many of the love poems in the hyakunin isshu? |
Considering they gave FLCL a G rating, I think a bit of wink-wink-nudge-nudge wouldn't be a big deal. (Though the first set is PG for, among other things, "sexual references", but I figure that was for the brief joke about Taichi's pubes the guy who runs the karuta place made.)
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kevinx59
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:17 pm
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Reminds me of when the people in my school's anime club saw the Australian Nichijou release and were shocked to see it had an M rating. I later told them that the Australian M rating isn't as harsh as the US release, but its still interesting how over here getting that rating means 17+ while over there I take it that its more of a PG/14 equivalent.
PS. Even though the article has been out for a while, I just have to say I love the Strike Witches thumbnail pic.
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SquadmemberRitsu
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:51 am
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CatSword wrote: | If Siren put any of that into the subs of Chihayafuru I'd have to scratch that off my list of anime DVDs to import. |
I'm 90% sure the subs are probably from CR or some other source. Although the OP and ED are subbed so I'm not 100% sure exactly where it came from.
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yuna49
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:22 am
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CatSword wrote: | I've noticed that before; I think the "supernatural themes" may play a part in it. The OFLC are particularly sensitive about that.... |
Lots of classic stories for children have supernatural themes. I see a movie with witches and talking animals, Cinderella, nevertheless gets a G. So does Sleeping Beauty. I can't find an AU release for Snow White, but if it exists, I'd bet it is rated G as well.
Though there are supernatural trappings in Dennou Coil, the actual mechanisms are not. I guess the ratings board saw the ofuda and shrines and assumed it was supernatural? If so, they certainly weren't paying attention to the story.
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Shiroi Hane
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:50 pm
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CatSword wrote: | Gantz may be racy and gory, but it's not R18+ material when you consider the fact that Elfen Lied, Rin: Daughters of Mnonyense, and Puni Puni Poemy all slipped by with an MA15+. |
I don't remember all that much about Gantz, but I do remember it being the first TV anime I'd seen with full-on sex in it. I think it would probably be the only one to this day if it weren't for Yosuga no Sora.
yuna49 wrote: | Though there are supernatural trappings in Dennou Coil, the actual mechanisms are not. I guess the ratings board saw the ofuda and shrines and assumed it was supernatural? If so, they certainly weren't paying attention to the story. |
Black ghost-like apparitions, be they digital, pulling your "soul" out of your body is pretty supernatural, and there's also a couple of conversations with dead people.
The Australian M is a recommendation rather than a restriction, essentially a stronger version of PG - the summary for both starts "Not recommended for children under 15".
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