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Tiggyz
Joined: 16 Jan 2014
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:15 am
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And this is why you don't watch porn in public. Yes I watch my fair share of hentai but the only difference is I watch it in my own house and when everyone is asleep
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Blood-
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:22 am
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TsukasaElkKite wrote: |
誤称 wrote: | Think of the imaginary children!
Oh Canada.... |
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You must be new. Every time an item like this gets posted at ANN somebody makes that exact same post. Actually, usually several people make that exact same post.
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Foxguy
Joined: 10 Sep 2014
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:33 am
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Why the hell did he watch these things in public!? I know it might be a boring job, but I even have the SFW set on my FA page when I'm in public! Decency is an act of service to the public. This is where the bathroom, downloading the material onto a (smart)phone, and a headset come in. Go in, watch an episode on low volume, leave, blame it on eating something bad, repeat every hour or two. Not saying from experience, but you gotta be clever when hiding that you're doing something offensive. Especially if no one is getting hurt by it.
Buuuut, if the 700+ things on his comp involve even the slightest amount of real children doing it, then no complaints here. Then the perv deserved the 90 day sentence and sex offender charge.
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VORTIA
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:58 am
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Blood- wrote: |
asdqweiop wrote: | lol Blood. Have you been watching replays of the Golden Goal on loop for the past ten hours? Too much patriotism in your veins. |
Hardly. I was merely responding to the idea that some Americans have that they are relieved they don't live in Canada because they could get chucked in the slammer for possessing images of illustrated kids getting diddled. I find that relief amusing considering it is possible for the exact same thing to happen in the US (albeit by a different legal journey - as if that matters considering the destination is the same). |
Actually, it DOES matter. The Supreme Court has ruled that private possession of obscenity is protected under the 4th Amendment. That doesn't protect you if you're dumb enough to watch it in public, but private consumption is not, in itself, illegal. Handley's downfall was being unlucky enough to have his package opened by a moralistic postal inspector, and living in a county in rural Iowa where it was considered unlikely he could find an open-minded jury. It's possible he might have avoided conviction, but he pled guilty as part of a plea deal.
As the searching of a citizen's property and person is restricted by the just cause clause of the 4th Amendment, and what does or does not constitute obscenity can only be established by a jury, law enforcement & prosecutors almost never investigate obscenity without an outside complaint.
So yes, things are better in the US. Still bad, perhaps, but considerably better than up North. Folks here in the States don't get shaken down and taken into custody at the border for possession of manga.
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Xshinobi
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:00 am
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DJStarstryker wrote: | *sigh*
I can understand this if he'd done something with a real child. Or, you know, looking at pictures or videos with real kids. Because the latter easily could've been forced, and that's not right. But this is anime. It's not real. It's not negatively affecting children. I GUESS you could argue that people who want hentai could potentially want to start watching real porn or whatever. But if you stay limited to 2D, things that aren't real and not harming anyone, I don't see what the problem is. |
This whole thing seems a bit crazy. I wonder if these people would convict someone for murder if they watched a violent movie or if they shot someone in Grand Theft Auto.
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mdo7
Joined: 23 May 2007
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Location: Katy, Texas, USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:04 am
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誤称 wrote: | Think of the imaginary children!
Oh Canada.... |
That's what I would like to say too.
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configspace
Joined: 16 Aug 2008
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:10 am
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Blood- wrote: |
asdqweiop wrote: | lol Blood. Have you been watching replays of the Golden Goal on loop for the past ten hours? Too much patriotism in your veins. |
Hardly. I was merely responding to the idea that some Americans have that they are relieved they don't live in Canada because they could get chucked in the slammer for possessing images of illustrated kids getting diddled. I find that relief amusing considering it is possible for the exact same thing to happen in the US (albeit by a different legal journey - as if that matters considering the destination is the same). |
You can arrive at the same destination for anything. What I'm saying is that your point is absolutely meaningless without considering the reality that is determined by how. In Canada, you will go to prison. In the US you may or may not, with other factors coming into play. Hence the point about distinguishing between US and Canada still remains. In other words if someone were to choose between Canada and the US in this situation, they would be much better off in the US.
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Blood-
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:10 am
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@ VORTIA & configspace - sure, I'd be willing to concede it may be easier to get knicked for illustrated kiddie porn in Canada versus the US. But the point is that it can also happen down there. So being relieved that you have less chance of being charged for having illustrated kiddie porn is kind of bizarre, imo.
America: making it safer for pedos to fap to illustrated kiddie porn since 1776.
USA!USA!USA!
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firedragon54738
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:34 am
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So Canada got nothing better to do then go after hentai watches
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berserkguard
Joined: 15 Feb 2012
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:34 am
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Blood- wrote: | America: making it safer for pedos to fap to illustrated kiddie porn since 1776. |
Actually, it would be since 1791, since that was when the First Amendment was adopted... but A+ for effort, can't expect all lumberjacks to know our legal system
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Blood-
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:36 am
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I think most non-pedants would accept 1776 - the year your own country has chosen as the anniversary of its founding - as a milestone in illustrated kiddie porn protection.
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Ambimunch
Joined: 30 Aug 2012
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:01 am
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Akuma381 wrote: | I live in Canada and I know for a fact that there are still stores here that sell/rent hentai (no first hand experience, no pun intended). I really hope this guy didn't go down for "normal" hentai. Otherwise I suppose lots of people are breaking the law up here. No more school girl fantasies. :'( |
Canada is weird in these kind of ways. We sometimes pardon rapists and let them walk free yet people go to jail for missing a tax payment....gg Canada
firedragon54738 wrote: | So Canada got nothing better to do then go after hentai watches |
Pretty much, and watch hockey...
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Blanchimont
Joined: 25 Feb 2012
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:06 am
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uh, Seven Seas might want to seriously reconsider whether it's worth keeping their printing facilities in Canada, for titles like Dragonar Academy, Monster Musume, DiVB...
But seriously, this is crazy, just plain utter bonkers. It's drawings on papers/frames, no actual victims involved in production. And, and, how the heck do you conclude the age of a fictional character....
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FenixFiesta
Joined: 22 Apr 2013
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:21 am
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SquadmemberRitsu wrote: | Just out of curiosity, what does US law say about 400+ year old vampires who look like 12 year old girls?
And while were on the same topic, what about 500+ year old vampires who look like 10 year olds? |
Genitals never shown, so its ok.
Just don't go looking for "that particular Doujinshi work".
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Foxguy
Joined: 10 Sep 2014
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:26 am
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@VORTIA
Okay, I understand. Illegal is illegal, nothing can change it. But I'm not upset or hating these people. People just deserve what they deserve for not following the laws.
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