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NEWS: Frozen Home Video Tops Spirited Away as Fastest to Sell 2 Million Copies in Japan


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mdo7



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:53 am Reply with quote
Wow nice job Frozen!!! Surprised

LaughingElbow wrote:
Rofl. I know a lot of people that have this deep hatred for Frozen.


Let the haters hate. I mean no one can denied Frozen's popularity.
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TarsTarkas



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:59 am Reply with quote
As you said, haters are going to hate, especially when the movie is going like gang busters. They just can't stand it, when despite their hate the movie still succeeds. That Frozen is doing so fantastic in Japan, just causes them to boil over.

Frozen is just one of those movies that reach out an touch you. Which is the surest sign of success for any movie.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:55 am Reply with quote
TarsTarkas wrote:
As you said, haters are going to hate, especially when the movie is going like gang busters. They just can't stand it, when despite their hate the movie still succeeds. That Frozen is doing so fantastic in Japan, just causes them to boil over.

Frozen is just one of those movies that reach out an touch you. Which is the surest sign of success for any movie.


Frozen is doing extremely well all over the world. Japan is not the exception. Furthermore if there is one thing Disney knows how do to well it is to capture the imagination of kids. And kids are the same all over the world. It's no surprise japanese girls are going all crazy over this film.

Ah but according to certain so-called "anime fans" japanese only like japanase animation and hate wholeheartedly anything foreign eh ? Rolling Eyes Sucks to be you. Laughing Laughing
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L'Imperatore



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:41 pm Reply with quote
Cptn_Taylor wrote:
Ah but according to certain so-called "anime fans" japanese only like japanase animation and hate wholeheartedly anything foreign eh ? Rolling Eyes Sucks to be you. Laughing Laughing

But.. but! As the last defense, some "anime fans" will cynically claim that Frozen only sells to mainstream (read: those casuals who mainly watch Ghibli/Sunday morning/family-oriented anime) population, not to those nerdy, late-night anime otaku... as if "being accepted and loved by Japanese otaku" was the true hallmark of success for ANY animated show, local- or foreign-made.
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Fedora-san



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:43 pm Reply with quote
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I don't have a problem with that, I had a bigger problem with it winning the oscar over Wind Rises, because that is not about making people happy, that should have been an objective decision based on merit.


That's not what the Oscars are. The Oscars are all politics. For example, you can expect some awards being given to Robin Williams next year.

L'Imperatore wrote:
But.. but! As the last defense, some "anime fans" will cynically claim that Frozen only sells to mainstream (read: those casuals who mainly watch Ghibli/Sunday morning/family-oriented anime) population, not to those nerdy, late-night anime otaku... as if "being accepted and loved by Japanese otaku" was the true hallmark of success for ANY animated show, local- or foreign-made.


What's with all this hostile strawmanning? Disney does sell primarily to mainstream audiences in Japan. That's an accurate thing to point out.
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IchigoKurosakiHollowfi



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:19 pm Reply with quote
Woah. Just... Woah. O_O

I saw Frozen just to see what all the hype was about, and it wasn't bad, I ejoyed most of it, but I still don't understand how it's suppose to be the best disney movie ever tbh.
And I agree, Tangled was a bit more fun to watch. It should get more love. >.<

I wonder if Frozen is doing so well in japan because of the 'sisterly love' aspect of the movie? :O Sad
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:49 pm Reply with quote
Kutsu wrote:

With VHS 'Spirited Away' is at over 4 million in home video sales so it still has quite a margin.


Are ya sure it sold that many VHS in Japan? (2.4+ million DVDs + 1.6+ million VHS = 4+ million home videos)
Because VHS was not a home video favorite in Japan - that'd be LDs (VHS was for rentals). Plus, Spirited Away home videos first came out (July 19, 2002) at the tail end of VHS' life, when DVDs were already taking over.


Cptn_Taylor wrote:

Frozen is doing extremely well all over the world.


Though Frozen is not the #1 animated film in some countries. For example, in Indonesia, #1 is Despicable Me 2.

Still per capita, #1 is Japan followed by South Korea, Norway, Denmark, Australia, North America, then Sweden.


IchigoKurosakiHollowfi wrote:

And I agree, Tangled was a bit more fun to watch. It should get more love. >.<


Where were those people when Tangled was out?
Seems this only became a mantra when Frozen started climbing the charts.


IchigoKurosakiHollowfi wrote:

I wonder if Frozen is doing so well in japan because of the 'sisterly love' aspect of the movie? :O Sad


Can't be Laughing

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xyz



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:07 pm Reply with quote
Frozen is like Gangnam style. I can't figure out why it's so popular.
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yotsubafanfan



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:28 pm Reply with quote
The movie is great! I love it and it was the first Disney movie in a while to shock me (okay, well at least since Wreck it Ralph.). But with all good things it sort of get's out of hands and becomes a little over hyped. I'm probably just saying this because this was all we watched for the last 3 weeks of school but the movie is getting sort of bland in a way. I still love it but I can only watch "For the first time in forever" and "Let it Go" so many times before I watch to bash my head against a wall. It's still a good movie though, it just gets repetitive after a while. But I can't wait to watch the documentary on how they made it on ABC. I'm super stoked for that! Very Happy
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EyeOfPain



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:59 pm Reply with quote
Lycosyncer wrote:
I say, screw the haters and by the way, I have already seen The Wind Rises and quite frankly, I personally don't think it is Miyazaki's best film and with the subject matter he's tackling here, of course the film is most likely not going to be for everyone and besides, he's already won his Oscar for his much better film Spirited Away many years ago so it's not like that the Academy doesn't acknowledge him for his other films.
Yeah, it won against Ice Age, Lilo & Stitch, Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron, and Treasure Planet. Do you even remember half those movies?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:49 pm Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
IchigoKurosakiHollowfi wrote:

I wonder if Frozen is doing so well in japan because of the 'sisterly love' aspect of the movie? :O Sad


Can't be Laughing


People said they don't care Frozen isn't popular with otaku, yet here people are using supposed incest as a reason why it's popular in Japan, when that would mean they're using the otaku audience to judge it, which means they do care about otaku.

This kind of logic never makes sense though. If they wanted incest cartoons, they have plenty to choose from and wouldn't resort to a Disney movie which doesn't have incest to get their fix. I haven't seen any incest focused circles show interest in Frozen, myself. Perhaps I overlooked some, though.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:12 pm Reply with quote
I only dislike Frozen because I have huge problems with the writing and character designs (I dont care if you're related, there is no reason other than laziness for Elsa, Anna and their mother to look exactly the same) and also that god-awful snowman thing. I will admit the snow animation is really nice, but other than that I'm absolutely mystified about its popularity, especially in Japan. They've got Frozen PS4s and there was even an Elsa nendoroid announced last Wonderfest.
I wonder if they're going to end up making some kind of series based on it like they did with Stitch.
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:26 pm Reply with quote
I get the feeling Frozen isn't all that huge with typical Japanese male otaku judging by the severe lack of the sort of art that group would generate on pixiv. It's all cutesy watercolors or western styled, not Elsa plowing Anna with her enormous futa cock or anything like you'd expect. What I have seen of that stuff is being made by Westerners. And besides using porn to judge something's popularity, 2 million discs sold is beyond the scope of otaku, that's pure normal people sales. Even the top anime outside of Eva or Ghibli can barely crack 100k, and this is over twenty times that. This is definitely normal families buying copies, no question.
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Kutsu



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:34 pm Reply with quote
@enurtsol

VHS was popular far longer in Japan compared to other countries. They were released up to the mid 2000s.

The Japanese wikipedia has 2.5 million copies shipped for the VHS of Spirited Away. It has 3 million shipped for the DVD so using the same ratio we get 2 million VHS sold.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/千と千尋の神隠し

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VHS(ブエナビスタ版) 250万本出荷
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Fedora-san



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:36 pm Reply with quote
Kutsu wrote:
VHS was popular far longer in Japan compared to other countries. They were released up to the mid 2000s.

The Japanese wikipedia has 2.5 million copies shipped for the VHS of Spirited Away. It has 3 million shipped for the DVD so using the same ratio we get 2 million VHS sold.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/千と千尋の神隠し

Quote:
VHS(ブエナビスタ版) 250万本出荷


I suppose VHS/DVD was the DVD/BD of today. In that regard I suppose Spirited Away sold a lot more than people would assume. Perhaps other movies and shows which came out during the transition phase as well.
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