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American Anime Award's manga nomination for Best of 06


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darkhunter



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:25 pm Reply with quote
The nomination ares (I know all the veteran manga fans are gonna roll their eyes and puke) :
Bleach
Death Note
Fruits Basket
Naruto
Neon Genesis Evangelion: Angelic Days (What the hell?)

Who do you think will take it and why? What would be your ideal nomination.

Within these "super popular" options, my prediction is Death Note because it's gaining a lot of momentum lately, especially with anime series adaption being release. It has that cross over appeal that makes fangirl go nuts. The first 4 volume were really good as well, I can't say much for most of the stuff after that.


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marie-antoinette



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:55 pm Reply with quote
I was hoping for something a little more original in the nominations (not to say each title isn't original, but the list itself is very...blah).

I agree, probably Death Note. I have only seen the anime but it at very least starts out as a very good series and is one that I think would be shocking not to see on the list, so that would be my thoughts.
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bahamut623



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:26 pm Reply with quote
Probably Naruto. Runner up will be Bleach or Death Note. While both of them are really popular, neither of them come close to Naruto in that regard, and this really is just a manga popularity contest so it'll probably be Naruto.
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darkhunter



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:27 pm Reply with quote
My personal nomination would have been:
Vagabond (20-23 were very good imo and production quality is still high)
Ode To Kirihito (another Tezuka Classic and don't sleep on the Buddha paperback rerelease)
Monster (It's only getting better with every release)
One Piece (still the best shounen title being release without the 4kids butcher)
NaNa (still the best shoujo manga being release right now)
Eden (dark horse's strongest title in 06 and Berserk didn't have a bad year)

Honorable Mention:
BECK - TP's strongest title in 06 imo.
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Kagemusha



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:43 pm Reply with quote
These "awards" are a joke. Weren't the nominees chosen by fans? That's the only explanation I can think of considering 4 of the titles are the best selling manga right now in America (and I wouldn't be suprised if some anime-only fans voted for NGE:AD just because its Evangelion). Death Note is the only one you could really make a case for, and even then there are plenty of other titles that are more deserving of a nomination. I mean shit, they had the 4-year-old FLCL nominated for an award, so does that mean that any manga ever released in the US is eligible?

Getting back to the question, like I said above Death Note is the most worthy of the choices given and will get the award if its voted on by a judges panel. If the actual award is based on fan votes, I'd say Fruits Basket. Naruto sells more, but FB has more fans who would actually go out of their way to vote on something like this.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:38 pm Reply with quote
out of the dribble provided, some titles are good but hardly manga of the year material, I'd say the 2 front runners are Fruit's Basket and Naruto. They're probably the 2 best selling mangas period so I'd expect them to get the most. figure if more girls then guys vote FB will win and if more guys vote Naruto. Not trying to stereotype here but honestly more girls read FB as more guys read Naruto than the opposite sex.
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MorwenLaicoriel



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:16 pm Reply with quote
Kagemusha wrote:
These "awards" are a joke. Weren't the nominees chosen by fans? That's the only explanation I can think of considering 4 of the titles are the best selling manga right now in America (and I wouldn't be suprised if some anime-only fans voted for NGE:AD just because its Evangelion).


The nominations were done by companies, and a few independant nominators (ANN's staff was one of them). Each nominator got to pick two nominees in each catagory.

These are the finalists, however--which basically means they're the top five results of the voting. I can't remember what some of the other nominees were...but, yeah, it's a popularity contest when it comes down to it.

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Death Note is the only one you could really make a case for, and even then there are plenty of other titles that are more deserving of a nomination. I mean shit, they had the 4-year-old FLCL nominated for an award, so does that mean that any manga ever released in the US is eligible?


It was "any title available in 2006"...ie, if you could buy it in '06, it counted. Don't ask me WHY they did that--I guess they figured that since it was the first year of the awards, it wouldn't be fair to exclude other titles. Still, I hope they don't do that next year--it'd be pointless.

As for who I'm rooting for, I personally voted for Fruits Basket...I've never had a manga get me emotionally as much as Furuba. I'd love to see Death Note win, though--the art's certainly one of the best among the finalist, and the plot's also excellent.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:58 pm Reply with quote
One Piece would have been a good title to see on there, if it were in my opinion, then I'd say that Death Note has the best chance of winning, since it's a pretty good series that can keep people hooked on it. Especially when people want to see what will happen between L and Light. Fruits Basket I can see being the "daihyo" of the shojo group because it sounds like it's the biggest series on the market, though I don't think their quarterly releases help them much. I think it's a final showdown between Death Note, Fruits Basket, and Bleach. Naruto just has all the Narutards, and the other one, what?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:22 pm Reply with quote
darkhunter wrote:
The nomination ares (I know all the veteran manga fans are gonna roll their eyes and puke) :


Or laugh like a maniac at the absurdity of it all.

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Who do you think will take it and why?


I'm going with either Death Note or Naruto, with Fruits Basket a close third, Bleach fourth, and Neon Genesis Evangelion: Angelic Days last. (It makes me shudder to think that filth of an incarnation of arguably the most popular mecha series ever is listed in that category, never mind the other "stellar" nominations.) Fruits Basket has a devoted following though I doubt that it can eclipse what Naruto has brought forth, and Death Note, as you and others have mentioned, has momentum right now from his still growing fanbase. (Maybe things will cool off once part two of the series rears its ugly head?)

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What would be your ideal nomination.


For manga just started this past year, and limiting it to five of 'em:

Abandon the Old in Tokyo (I personally consider this to be the best anthology of the year, ahead of Ohikkoshi and Japan as Viewed by 17 Creators.)
Dragon Head (Absolutely insane survival material here. So glad that Tokyopop decided to make this available in bookstores instead of the "site only" gimmick.)
Emma (I fell in love with it starting it volume one if only purely for the setting, and volume two starts to show some serious potential and direction with this series. Mori's use of subtle storytelling is some of the best in English.)
Japan as Viewed by 17 Creators (While it's bogged down by some of its entries, a lot of the one-shots here are some of the best available in English, in my opinion. Kan Takahama, Taiyo Matsumoto, Daisuke Higarashi... the talent level is wonderous here.)
Ode to Kirihito (Some unneeded, dark imagery along with "preachiness" aside, this is arguably the most harsh and "humane" manga of the year -- pun not intended.)

There are some I've left out for some minor reason or another (Dolis, The Drifting Classroom, Monster, Ohikkoshi, Yakitate!! Japan), but I think that roughly covers my selection of it.

For series that continued on from 2005:

Berserk (We reach what many consider to be the peak of the manga, and I can't really disagree here. Brutal, raw, emotional, it's Kentaro Miura at his greatest.)
Eden: It's an Endless World! (Some of the individual volumes were lackluster in comparison -- two and five, specifically -- but overall the series is downright intense and unrelenting with its readers.)
NANA (I definitely agree with ya, darkhunter, best shoujo being released right now, and only second to Mars in terms of the typical material for me, A, A Prime being excluded for that reason.)
Phoenix (Viz returned with this series, and there should be a damn celebration over it. The quality is a bit scattered, but ultimately I believe Tezuka to be at his finest here when taken the overall work.)
Vagabond (It's still my favorite serial manga right now and with Viz's impressive release of it, continues to be so. Methodical and captivating, the story of Miyamoto Musashi told be Inoue is truly a grand one.)
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coolerimmortal



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:21 pm Reply with quote
What a joke.

Eden. Monster. Death Note. Most of all, Berserk. Naruto? Bleach? Those manga aren't even good, much less award-worthy.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:52 pm Reply with quote
As huge a One Piece fan as I am, it's not high class manga and isn't worthy of any awards whatsoever; to give it a nomination, let alone a prize, is pretty insulting. Bleach and Naruto don't deserve a slot up there, either.

Death Note would have easily earned my blessing for something like this...that is, until I read Volume 7+ or whenever Mello and Near get introduced. That second plot arc, not to mention the silly Yotsuba Group arc, knocked DN down a couple pegs from "godly" to merely "above average". It's influence is felt, of course; DN gave birth to a lot of sterotypes, some of which were seasoned in the recent anime Code Geass, but does the original really hold water against these new upstarts? I'd say no.

So...my vote would go to Fruits Basket. I dislike the title, but it finished on a good note and pretty decisively at that.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:36 am Reply with quote
I'm not a big fan of neither Naruto nor Fruits Baskets (although both have their merits), so Bleach is the closest candidate next to Death Note. Although I've been getting extremely fed up with it lately I believe it's the most obvious choice as far as I'm concerned. It's a good read, but nothing more IMO *resists urge to rant about unsatisfying details which have been done thousand times over* I have nothing good to say about the Angelic Days-remix of Evangelion so I rather not say it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:55 pm Reply with quote
The problem with awards is that you either please the mainstream audience of whatever they're pertaining to by presenting the well known works, or else you alienate the aforementioned audience by selecting things that only "snobby elitists" would approve of. Ultimately it's going to piss someone off.

Malintex Terek wrote:
As huge a One Piece fan as I am, it's not high class manga and isn't worthy of any awards whatsoever; to give it a nomination, let alone a prize, is pretty insulting. Bleach and Naruto don't deserve a slot up there, either.


A shounen category is always possible, if they were to stretch the award to cover different genres of manga. Now if they acknowledge shoujo, seinen, josei (heh, you'd see very few nominations there), etc. then I'd be content with that.

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It's influence is felt, of course; DN gave birth to a lot of sterotypes, some of which were seasoned in the recent anime Code Geass, but does the original really hold water against these new upstarts? I'd say no.


Laughing

... Ah, wait, you're serious? I mean, the second half of Death Note is mediocre, yeah, but the direction of Code Geass... I don't even know if it has that anymore.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:17 am Reply with quote
HellKorn wrote:


I'm going with either Death Note or Naruto, with Fruits Basket a close third, Bleach fourth, and Neon Genesis Evangelion: Angelic Days last. (It makes me shudder to think that filth of an incarnation of arguably the most popular mecha series ever is listed in that category, never mind the other "stellar" nominations.) Fruits Basket has a devoted following though I doubt that it can eclipse what Naruto has brought forth, and Death Note, as you and others have mentioned, has momentum right now from his still growing fanbase. (Maybe things will cool off once part two of the series rears its ugly head?)



Angelic Days is terrible and ADV is milking the series for all its worth.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:37 am Reply with quote
HellKorn wrote:

... Ah, wait, you're serious? I mean, the second half of Death Note is mediocre, yeah, but the direction of Code Geass... I don't even know if it has that anymore.


The objectives have blurred since episode ten or so, but they're still there, just not emphasized. Sunrise's problem is that they try to cram every concievable sterotype into the show, almost to make it the "quintessential" shounen mecha. It's bloody annoying and looks like a delay tactic to spill over the plot into a second season.
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