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Key
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Last night they aired episode 29, a light-hearted episode up until the point where Talho finally reveals to Renton who and what Eureka is, why Gekkostate is doing what it's doing, and at least part of the story concerning what Renton's father Adrock did. My reaction:
1) Damn. Didn't see that one (about Eureka) coming. 2) Those revelations put everything in the series in a totally new perspective. In general, I've been especially impressed with the last few episodes, whether it's spoiler[the joyous reunion of Renton and Eureka] in episode 26 or spoiler[the harsh deaths of Charles and Ray] in episodes 27 and 28. This series took a while to grow on me but now I'm completely hooked, to the point that it's now my priority view on Saturday nights. If it maintains this level of quality in its storytelling then I'll have to consider it one of the best mecha series of the past decade. And I find it interesting that its time slot has been moved up by a half-hour. Maybe that means it's doing a little better in the ratings? Other thoughts/opinions? Last edited by Key on Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:24 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Hisdon
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ya this is the climax of the series, just wait till around episode 30 where that "extreme violence" warning they put before the episodes is actually used. The series is going to get a lot more dramatic past this point than it was up until now. |
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deepon05
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I still prefer the subs over the dubs. Just to get that out of the way because I hate the dubbed Renton because he sounds more annoying in english than he does in japanese.
Still though the annoying dub doesn't take away from the well thought out plot and now that the story of Eureka is revealed, a little more light is shined on the existence of the Scab Coral and the typeZero. p.s. I don't know what they call the Scab Coral in the dub and one more grip, I hate the way they pronounce Eureka's name. It should be more like "Eureka! I've discovered the cure for cancer!" Something along the lines of when you say Eureka on an important discovery. |
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frentymon
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No, it shouldn't. The way they pronounce it in the dub is the way they pronounced it in the original Japanese version, and also the way you pronouce the original (Greek?) word in which the English term "Eureka!" was derived from. If it was really decided to be pronouced the way we pronouce the word Eureka, her name would be Yurika instead, as the Japanese version chooses to pronouce Eureka's name by its literal katakanized pronounciation. |
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Richard J.
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I wonder if we'll get to the meet her family.
It was a really touching scene after everyone left and Eureka was so upset because she thought Renton would hate her. That kid's really come a long way from his "everything sucks" days. (Also, am I the only person who found the whole scene early on when he was talking about Charles and Ray deeply moving? It was so sad and yet incredibly hopeful.)
I'm very happy that [adult swim] moved everything up by thirty minutes. It's really made it easier to watch. Robot Chicken also makes for a much better lead in for all the anime series than what they had before. I've resisted watching ahead on this series and am eagerly awaiting next week's episode. It's nice to see that someone else is also watching it as it comes out. |
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Ohoni
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Yeah, Eureka's a very interesting series, because it starts out so fluffy (about a group of cheery sky surfers), then gets a little more serious (about a group of hunted anti-establishment terrorists), then gets even more serious spoiler[(about a group trying to save the world from a crazed millitary sociopath)], but all along the way it retains a certain charm to it.
It has a number of fun twists and revelations throughout, and the nature of the Corralians and the Scab Corral are both very interesting elements. |
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ManOfRust
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I have to say that up until the last few episodes I really did not like this series. The only things that kept me watching were that I was following shows that aired around it so I just set the VCR to tape E7 as well, and that I had read enough comments on the forums here about how it was such a great series that I figured there must be something I was missing.
Ever since the episodes with Ray and Charles my opinion has gradually been changing. The story has become much more compelling and Renton has done a lot of growing up. I still find him to be one of the most annoying anime characters around, but I am impressed with the way his character has been slowly developed over the course of the show. This week's revelation about Eureka was not such a huge surprise to me. She was pretty odd from the start, so I just had the feeling spoiler[that she was going to turn out to be not human, although I didn't guess what her true nature would be.] I was, however, somewhat surprised by Renton's reaction to the news. I expected another whiny Renton-meltdown, but as Richard J. mentioned, he pretty much took it in stride. It was another example of how far the character has come from the early episodes. Instead of slogging through this show every week with vague hopes that it would get good at some point, I'm finally starting to look forward to it. |
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penguintruth
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Wow, it only took 29 episodes to reveal the motive of the Gekko State.
That's some tight narrative. |
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Key
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That didn't surprise me, though. Continuing to accept someone despite learning their nasty secrets has been used in other occasions in anime to illustrate the strength of a relationship and maturity by the character in question. (Mahoromatic, in particular its second season, immediately springs to mind as another example.) I will agree that it was a touching scene, as was the way Renton talked about Charles and Ray earlier in the episode. And yeah, penguintruth, the show can fairly be criticized for taking overly long to really explain anything, but that doesn't make these last few episodes any less good. |
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Zath
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I cant stand the english Dub for eureka Seven, Rentons voice is done horribly.
I just finished Eureka seven a few weeks ago, and i have to say its one of the best animes I've ever seen. Even though the begining was a little stale I knew from the start i would love the series. |
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Richard J.
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Usually the "dark secret" brings out more of a reaction. At least a little confusion or a brief moment of needing to be alone to process it all. |
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Ragg
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Yeah I think it get's pretty good after episode thirty, but I thought that episode 40-44ish was kind of a dead zone. Although I've never seen the dub, I really enjoyed the Sub. The sub places 2nd or 3rd on my list, and i'm still holding out for a continuation or an OVA. Although a lot of my friends think it could've gone further, since the mech designs were done pretty well, I didn't really care. Yeah I guess there are some corny parts, and some parts where you wish Renton would just shutup, but i guess the redeeming qualities of this anime help you cope with it. |
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VW66
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I had a similar experience as most of you. At first the show seemed lame and took forever to shake that lameness. I kept wanting to kill Renton just to make him shut up, the supporting characters were fairly shallow and steriotypical, and the whole sky-surfing-robot thing just seemed ridiculous to me. However it still had potential so I stuck it out and was very glad I did.
Yes, the whole series matures and gains direction with the episodes in the upper 20's and just gets better and better after that. Quite frankly this show could have squeezed the first 20 to 25 episodes into 2 or 3 and gone on from there. In my opinion it would have had an even bigger fan base had that been the case. |
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Hisdon
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I prefer Renton's dub voice 10 fold since the origenal voice actor's voice was the most annoying thing I ever heard -_-
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Nagisa
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I loved the show's method of keeping the viewer in the dark about everything except character development as a means (I'm assuming) of building sympathy for Renton and his similar plight, but even I have to admit the show's formula of "Holland bitches at Renton, Renton proves himself, Holland finds something else to bitch at Renton about, repeat" through the first twenty-something episodes was starting to get tiresome. The aftermath of Charles & Ray's arc was the perfect catalyst to put the plot into motion.
To compare it to a decidedly less polished show, I suppose you could liken it to the midpoint of Gundam SEED, where the preconceived notion of "Earth good, ZAFT bad" that the crew of the Archangel is understandably fed for the first thirty-ish episodes is turned on its ear by the aftermath of spoiler[Kira and Athrun's duel at Onogoro.] That right twist at the right moment breathes new life into a show right as it starts to wear out its welcome. |
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