Forum - View topicHey, Answerman! [2006-09-29]
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shadow_Hiei
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@ rant: I don't see what the big deal is with not translating the name of the weapon... its not you need to know what "Zanpakutou" means in order to understand the concept of what that weapon does, and its not like it sounds weird mixed in with English like some Japanese words do. Besides, its not rare for us to keep the original names for foreign weapons, especially not when it comes to old weapons like swords. (Katana, Shamshir, etc) Besides, how dumb would it sound to have Sango scream "BOOMERANG BONE!" every time she throws her weapon? I'll take the original name over that, thanks.
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Abarenbo Shogun
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The assumed story was that TOKYOPOP was trying to aim for the "Tuner" crowd and trying to ride on the coat tails of The Fast and the Furious. However, the idea backfired, because TOKYOPOP didn't do their research, made numerous technical errors and glitches, and they tried too hard to "inject" street slang and pretty much insult any tuner worth his salt. I don't have enough fingers to count the numerous technical glitches they did, even as minor as stock weights of the cars. TOKYOPOP just basiclly insulted an existing fanbase AND insulted their target audiance. |
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shadow_Hiei
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I'm going to have put that on my netflix queue sometime. |
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Gage
Posts: 480 Location: United States |
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I agree with Zac on the flake of the week. I mean, since he has took the time to actually submit something to ANN, why can't he not look for categories or some information on here.
Hell, what am I talkin'? He could just surf the World Wide Web. On top of that, he should read the rules and the "Contact Us" section for Editors. *Good advice for him, Answerman, good adivce. :-p* |
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Steroid
 Posts: 329 Location: At home, where all good hikikomori should be |
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Re: the video game issue. Wow, Answerman decries an industry's anti-fan policy? There is hope!
And that right there is the core of my anti-dub stance. A dub should not allow you to forget that you are watching a Japanese show. The characters on the show remain Japanese (or Japan-inspired), so their attitudes should also remain the same. If using honorifics is the only way to get that, they should stay in. It would also be a little reminder that what you are watching is an adaptation, not an original production. (Oh, and if we're calling out spelling, it's "minuscule," not "miniscule.") |
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GoodLuckSaturday
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I decided to just put everything past, present, and future on hold for Disgaea 2, which works out for me monetarily, even though that means no Valkyrie Profile 2 and no Tales of the Abyss (I may make an exception for Final Fantasy III on the DS). Thankfully, Ar Tonelico and Rogue Galaxy got pushed back to next year, so I may be generally finished with Disgaea 2 by then. I still need to finish Steambot Chronicles and Suikoden V. I'm a horrible RPG gamer... On TOKYOPOP dubs, the GTO one was pretty decent, and I'm not aware of any really big changes in it, but I haven't watched it subbed, since I'm already too big a fan of Blum's performance as Onizuka. |
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elsie
Posts: 61 Location: Virginia |
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Those of you who insist on honorifics in dubs, have you seen the Fake OVA? What was your opinion on how that was handled? The reason I ask: the story is set in New York among native New York cops, but the original and the dub have JJ referring to Dee as Dee-sempai since they were at the police academy together. No New York cop would ever refer to another cop as sempai, so should that honorific have been in the original Japanese version of the story or retained for the English version?
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elsie
Posts: 61 Location: Virginia |
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Somehow there was a double post. Sorry about that.
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Cowboy Cadenza
Posts: 243 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY |
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You'll actually find both entries in the dictionary. I feel that a dub doesn't need to fuse the English language with foreign customs to make it acceptable. You sound pretty convinced your opinion is right, though, so that's all I'm going to say about this. |
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DriftRoot
 Posts: 222 Location: NH |
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You know...there's a very simple way to resolve issues anyone may have about a dub - DON'T LISTEN TO IT AND WATCH SUBTITLES INSTEAD.
Yeesh. I rarely, rarely listen to the dub unless it's been recommended as an exceptional (or horrific) attempt. To me, it's kind of like looking at a copy of a copy of a copy - someone's interpretation of someone's else's interpretation of someone else's character. (Not saying all voice actors/directors attempt to match the original dub track, btw). My bias to subtitles is probably caused by watching fansubs. By the time a series is licensed and comes out over here on tv/dvd, I've already become quite familiar and comfortable with characters and their voices and it's extremely jarring to make the adjustment. I kind of have to reinterpret the show, which is not usually a good thing if I liked it well enough to buy it for its original qualities. Anyways, er hem: If you do not like a dub, don't listen to it. Stop complaining. I sincerely hope you're all literate and it isn't the difficulty of reading subtitles that's causing rejection of a Japanese track. Ok, so reading requires you to focus on what you're watching, there can be problems in translation, but if you're going to go all fussy over anime, at the very least have commitment to pay attention to it. |
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DriftRoot
Posts: 222 Location: NH |
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You know...there's a very simple way to resolve issues anyone may have about a dub - DON'T LISTEN TO IT AND WATCH SUBTITLES INSTEAD.
Yeesh. I rarely, rarely listen to the dub unless it's been recommended as an exceptional (or horrific) attempt. To me, it's kind of like looking at a copy of a copy of a copy - someone's interpretation of someone's else's interpretation of someone else's character. (Not saying all voice actors/directors attempt to match the original dub track, btw). My bias to subtitles is probably caused by watching fansubs. By the time a series is licensed and comes out over here on tv/dvd, I've already become quite familiar and comfortable with characters and their voices and it's extremely jarring to make the adjustment. I kind of have to reinterpret the show, which is not usually a good thing if I liked it well enough to buy it for its original qualities. Anyways, er hem: If you do not like a dub, don't listen to it. Stop complaining. I sincerely hope you're all literate and it isn't the difficulty of reading subtitles that's causing rejection of a Japanese track. Ok, so reading requires you to focus on what you're watching, there can be problems in translation, but if you're going to go all fussy over anime, at the very least have commitment to pay attention to it. |
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DriftRoot
Posts: 222 Location: NH |
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I have no idea how that ended up being a double post.
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animecrzy
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It would apear my post was whiped off the face of the net
Zanpakuto doesn't have an english equivalant, just like Bankai. How can you translate a word from japanese to another language that doesn't have an equivalant word in that language? New devices created in anime , for the most part, are not changed durring translation. Take Crusnik, a vampire that feeds off vampires, from Trinity Blood, or Coralian, a swell of trappar waves, from Eureka 7. If they're is trying to make a theme with their translation, then chances are Kido arts would become Demon arts. What confuses me is how all this could confuse fans. Fans know what such-and-such means, even if the words are changed in translation; from the effort Viz has put in the dub (that I've seen so far) I have little doubt that the translation will be true to the original script. [AS] is part of public television, and most of its viewers don't understand Japanese Honorifics, and honorifics are part of the japanese language, so doesn't it make sense that their removed durring translation? Respect is very important in Japanese culture, sadly, American(usa) culture isn't as keen in respect as Japanese culture. So the meaning behind honorifics would be lost on many viewers of the show. Last edited by animecrzy on Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:50 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Fiction Alchemist
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The Winking Samurai
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"I just know you would never see Tokyopop doing this"?
Apparently Cave has never watched Tokyopop's dubs of Initial D or Rave Master. >cringe< |
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