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roseversailles
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:14 am
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Looks lovely! Makes me wish Toronto was a feasible trip in my future
I've been following news on this, but haven't heard much about critical reception. It's done well at the box office, but how has it been doing compared to other Miyazaki works? I've been wondering if his final film would be a masterpiece, and while this may not be the end (I pray it's not!), it does seem more gentle and contemplative, as though a it were a farewell letter of sorts.
Also, do we have any clue about U.S. distribution rights? Will Disney be getting this one, or GKids? It seems to be more in the vein on Poppy Hill, but it's a true blue Miyazaki, so wouldn't Disney want to promote it...?
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YamadaKun
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:30 am
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A Miyazaki film subtitled in Canada? Really? Canadians, like us in the US generally don't subtitle any kind of animated film, let alone Miyazaki, but oh well. I'm not even from Canada. I'll ask Tenjin if he's going to the film or not and what his opinion in this film is.
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:02 am
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Can't wait to see this on the big screen. I wonder how many of my fellow Toronto ANN posters will be there with me. I guess there's pretty much no chance that Miyazaki will be there for the public screening, is there?
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YamadaKun
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:06 am
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Blood- wrote: | Can't wait to see this on the big screen. I wonder how many of my fellow Toronto ANN posters will be there with me. I guess there's pretty much no chance that Miyazaki will be there for the public screening, is there? |
Miyazaki movies do get somewhat wider releases, after Disney/G-Kids make their crappy "star studded" dubs in both Canada and America. Just wait until late 2014 or early-mid 2015. You'll get a wider release then.
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bravetailor
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:47 am
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YamadaKun wrote: | A Miyazaki film subtitled in Canada? Really? Canadians, like us in the US generally don't subtitle any kind of animated film, let alone Miyazaki, but oh well. I'm not even from Canada. I'll ask Tenjin if he's going to the film or not and what his opinion in this film is. |
Almost all of Ghibli's films have run in Toronto subtitled at one point or another. Last year they held the Ghibli Retrospective at the TIFF Bell Lightbox theatres--subtitled and dubbed versions were available for each film (when a dub was available).
I don't think Grave of the Fireflies has ever screened in Toronto, though.
TIFF also screened a subtitled From Up on Poppy Hill about 2 years ago, before the dub was even cast or created.
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Blood- wrote: | Can't wait to see this on the big screen. I wonder how many of my fellow Toronto ANN posters will be there with me. I guess there's pretty much no chance that Miyazaki will be there for the public screening, is there? |
Miyazaki movies do get somewhat wider releases, after Disney/G-Kids make their crappy "star studded" dubs in both Canada and America. Just wait until late 2014 or early-mid 2015. You'll get a wider release then. |
Who are you responding to? That's not what he asked about.
That said, I live in Toronto, and TIFF's ticket prices are too expensive for me at the current time. I will be waiting for the wider release like everyone else.
All this is to say, of course, that Toronto is a good place to live if you're an anime fan.
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WatchforMoons7
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:44 am
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I can only see little. I am deeply moved, and I hope for its success.
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trilaan
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:23 pm
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I don't know, it just seems like more of a Down-to-Earth Takahata Drama than a Magical Miyazaki Movie to me. If it comes here I'll see it, of course, but I don't have real hopes for it being Miyazaki's best in my opinion. More power to him for branching out to find the magic in the mundane for this film, though.
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bravetailor
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:41 pm
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Well, there are some Down-to-Earth Takahata movies which are superior to Magical Miyazaki movies. Grave of the Fireflies and Only Yesterday are arguably Top 5 Ghibli flicks. I'm just saying that expecting Miyazaki to be "magical" all the time is a little unfair--he's been involved with a lot of non-fantastical movies which were rather good, some even better than his "fantasy" movies.
In some ways, Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Ponyo and Howl's Moving Castle--as good as they were--were kind of bad for Ghibli in general in that they set up a false expectation among audiences. Instead of the flexible, "do any story we want" Ghibli of the late 80s and early 90s, they started to get pigeonholed as the "Disney of Japan"--family-friendly stories about magical characters and fantasy lands and all that. Which is ironic since originally people were promoting Ghibli as an alternative to the tired old fantasy wonderlands that Disney was serving up in the late 90s. Totoro and Kiki were refreshing, down to earth stories where the fantasy element was subtle. Porco Rosso, with the exception of a man with a pig's head, is as down to earth a film as they come. Then Ghibli at some point went all Disney on us. Or specifically, Miyazaki did.
I guess Thomas Wolfe was right when he said you can't go home again.
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Ambimunch
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:20 pm
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There is no excuse for me not to see it
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YamadaKun
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:38 pm
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@bravetailor Fun fact. Arriety is a Disney movie by production. Not the dub. The entire thing, according to ANN, at least. That will really annoy the Ghibli fanboys. Ghibli is just like Pixar/Disney. Went downhill like a turd. Ghibli has been sucking ass ever since Howl. Disney has been sucking since 2000. Pixar has been sucking since 2011. Ghibli sucks now. In fact, the same thing applies to all animation studios. TMS used to be awesome, but ever since Conan, they've been sucking ass. Sunrise has been sucking since Code Geass' ending. Toei has never really been good. Production IG is getting stale. Madhouse's Marvel Anime has tarnished them. So on and so forth. It's not just Ghibli that has been sucking.
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Blood-
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:39 pm
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Ah yes, the ever-fresh "everything sucks" commentary. God help us from "fans" who are under the impression that they have any taste.
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Jayhosh
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:38 pm
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Blood- wrote: | Ah yes, the ever-fresh "everything sucks" commentary. God help us from "fans" who are under the impression that they have any taste. |
Don't worry about it too much, YamadaKun hates everything.
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YamadaKun
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:57 am
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Quote: | I've been following news on this, but haven't heard much about critical reception. It's done well at the box office, but how has it been doing compared to other Miyazaki works? |
TBF, it hasn't finished it's run yet, but it's doing pretty well. It's the 2nd most popular movie in Japan in 2013, 2nd only to Monster University, but that had a 1-2 week headstart, so this will most likely top it. As for gross, it's the 6th highest grossing Ghibli movie in Japan.
1. Spirited Away: $229,000,000-$235,000,000
2. Howl's Moving Castle $190,000,000(had the highest opening of any anime film, until One Piece Z did away with that)
3. Ponyo: $160,000,000+
4. Princess Mononoke: $150,000,000
5, Arietty: $100,000,000+
6. Wind Rises: $74,000,000+
7. Poppy Hill $60,00,000+
8. Tales of Earthsea: $53,000,000(I think)
9. Cat Returns: $50,000,000(got battered by Monster Inc)
10. Porco Rosso: $34,000,00
In terms of reception, adults like it, kids hate it and think it's boring compared to Totoro and Ponyo. Even some adults think it's boring. Loads of Japanese nationalists think the movie is anti-Japanese and have been critical towards Miyazaki.
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