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Psycho Sting



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:46 am Reply with quote
I was just wandering how come there is so many animes about vampires and why
And how did vampire mythology enter into the anime scene
And also how did the vampire mythology transport itself from Europe into Japan
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what was the first vamipe anime and how many are out there now
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selenta
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:51 am Reply with quote
The only one of those questions I can answer is the "why are there so many", and the basic response is: human psychology. Humans have a wierd obsession with vampires; they are creatures of the night, 'defiled' humans, enjoy being what they are, they feed off humans, are much stronger than humans, live for a long time... it is the very qualities that define what the typical 'vampire' is that helps to explain why we are so fascinated with them. Part of most people's psyche longs to have these qualities (to be inherently stronger, to assert their authority over other people, to live forever etc); the reason vampires in particular are so popular I'd assume is a combination of the fact the exact stereotype in use today is a European one (i.e. foreign and thus cool to Japan), and they have become the the embodiment of man's fears and hopes wrapped up in one neat stereotype.

To be honest... I love the idea of vampire shows and watch everyone I can get my hands on, but I have yet to find one I am truly happy with. Blood+ is way too much of a drama (and god I hate Kai), I just didn't care about Alucard in Hellsing (I kept waiting and waiting for Celes) and the story fell apart half-way through anyway, Karin had some good moments when she half-turned but was otherwise ignorant of the fact she was even a vampire, Blood the movie was pretty good (even if she wasn't a vampire) but the monsters weren't even really vampires at all Crying or Very sad , Bloodlust was just terrible, not much point in having vampires if it's not an otherwise normalish Earth in my book, and in Vampire Princess Miyu the main girl didn't seem to have much of any emotions at all (and thus came across as really really boring), not to mention she seemed like more of a magician than a vampire.
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Fui



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:12 am Reply with quote
Ah, vampires. There must be a lot of anime about vampires since I've learned the Japanese term for vampire through anime (Kyuuketsuki). Often depicted as either an evil bishounen or a mysterious loli. I have to agree with a lot of what selenta said about them, and Japanese people tend to be particularly fascinated with them. Japanese tend to like to make really cool-looking demi-human monsters (cat-girls, vampires/demons, etc). A recent completed vampire anime is Tsukuyomi: Moon Phase, which you should catch if you're into vampires.

Unfortunately I don't know much about the history about them, but there's so much cultural exchange that I'm not sure if you can get a definite answer to your questions. Here's the Wiki on it:
Wikipedia wrote:
Kyūketsuki (吸血鬼) is a Japanese vampire.

There are no actual legends about vampires in Japan, except perhaps the gaki, as Japanese vampires made their first appearances in the Cinema of Japan during the late 1950s. Tales about vampirism were common in China, but these supernatural tales did not take root in Japan.

Various folklore places them similar to western vampires, with weaknesses to sunlight, and moving water. However, as according to myth, a full decapitation was necessary to truly kill one, as sunlight merely weakened it, and it was said to possess no heart.

Some tales have kitsune played as the role of vampire, and the term would probably have arisen from kitsune who changed their forms to feed upon human prey easier.

Modern vampires include Hammer Film Productions-inspired vampire movies and manga. The best known are Vampire Hunter D and Vampire Princess Miyu.
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Key
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:26 am Reply with quote
Vampire stories may not be indigenous to Japan, but they do appear in the folklore of other Eastern countries. In Malaysia, for instance, there's an obscure vampire called penanggalan, which involves a woman's head and entrails detaching from her body and flying around at night, seeking the blood of newborns, little children, and pregnant women. According to some variations of the story, the penanggalan can pass for a normal woman during day (albeit she smells somewhat of vinegar, which she must soak her entrails in before returning to her body) and is only affected by sunlight if her detached parts are struck by it. I'm sure there are others.

And while vampire anime might seem common, they don't appear any more frequently in Japanese media than they do in American media.
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:44 am Reply with quote
I think though that a Japanese version of a vampire would be some kind of oni, since there are plenty of oni legends in Japan. I have yet to see Vampire Hunter D, but so far the most interesting of vampire anime to me would be Tsukihime, just because it connects to Melty Blood.
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Key
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:04 pm Reply with quote
I can't think of an anime I've seen involving vampires which takes the "oni" angle on them, however. All of them (including especially Vampire Hunter D) take some variation of a very Western approach to them.

Why? For the same reason they're popular in Europe and America: vampires are majorly cool as is. Japan is at least as much of a slave to pop culture as any other developed nation, so naturally they'll wholesale adapt aspects from other countries that they find cool. That's also why Western-style weddings and wedding music pop up so much in anime when characters envision weddings.
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Deltakiral



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:11 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
Vampire stories may not be indigenous to Japan, but they do appear in the folklore of other Eastern countries.


Remember that the term vampire from Bram Stroker novel techincally gets the term from turkish legends. If your interested in a good novel with lots of factual information (concerning Vampire) check out the Historian. But like Key says Vampire forklore can be found in lots of countries, but the stories will vary with culture.

Also am I am only person who is bother by how badly the Dracula history has been warped? Like how most think he can't go out in the day, and that sunlight instantly kills him. But whatever, I was a little crazy about Vampires (Dracula in particular) a few years ago when I wrote a short story about them.

As for Vampire anime, I have seen Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust that is a fun anime, I really want to find some time to watch the original Vampire Hunter D.

As to why there are so many different anime dealing with vampires well Vampire are just so cool. Not only that there are lots of different themes and other ideas that can be presented, case in point blood+.
Till next time,

Delta Kiral
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hentai4me



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:41 pm Reply with quote
I think another important point is that vampires; while super endowed with strengths and weaknesses; still have human features and emotions. Why does this matter? Well it eans that you can use a vampire in many situations, because they still act like humans do, react to things like humans do and face the same emotional challenges, they are also able to integrate into society in ways that a human cum daemon cannot. Now obviously vampires will have different outlooks and solutions to these kinds of problems to that of a regular human but the fact they still face them allows them to be used in a great deal more situations. Karin for example, she's a vampire (sort of) but that's only one element of her character while with things like vampire hunter D it's his whole character. So just because someone is a vampire doesn't mean that has ot be played up but it can.
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selenta
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:29 pm Reply with quote
hentai4me wrote:
I think another important point is that vampires; while super endowed with strengths and weaknesses; still have human features and emotions.


Exactly, if the character isn't human at all, it's hard to empathise (sp?).

hentai4me wrote:
they are also able to integrate into society in ways that a human cum daemon cannot.


Not that there's anything inherently wrong with those human cum daemons Anime smile + sweatdrop
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omar235



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:05 pm Reply with quote
I think that vampires are cool because they are what people fear about the night just like demons and other monsters. They are creatures that humans aren't able to kill easly, they feed on blood, and they are immortal. I suppose it is because vampires are better than us in certain aspects in which we dream for, like immortality and superior physical ability. They are also a mystery, that mystery is what intrigues us to delve deeper into there origins, so we end up with many stories that are about facinating super humans or destructive monsters that are nearly impossible to kill and can hunt you through the night like an animal. It the fear of the unknown.
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