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radicaledward
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:02 am
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I think that part of the reason that Megatokyo drags is because Piro was trying to make the plot realistic in an obtuse sort of way. Think about - real life is disjoined, theres no real plot, and story developments come slowly. I see Megatokyo as sort of a comic version of Sienfield.
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king_micah
Joined: 09 Jun 2003
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Location: OSU
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:20 pm
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I think it is pretty good, but suffers from its format and from lack of assistants. It ends up sometimes being a series of 'hey, wouldn't it be funny if this happened jokes.'
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Delthayre
Joined: 05 Jan 2003
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Location: One of the good United States
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:25 pm
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I'm only passingly familiar with MegaTokyo. I read a sizeable portiona of the archives, but I bored of the strip quickly. I imagine if I exosed myself to it I might respond more like Zac, although with more confusing sentence structure and probably a softer presentation.
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JGPocky
Joined: 28 Aug 2003
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Location: Ohio
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:22 pm
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Megatokyo does need to pick up the plot; not much has happened recently IMHO. It's just Largo droning on about zombies.
The comic was better when Rodney Caston was around, but I think Fred Gallagher is doing a good job by himself.
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Louie-kun
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
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Location: I'm back.
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:08 pm
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Zac wrote: | I find Megatokyo to be a shallow, vapid excuse for the author to dramatize his highly uninteresting personal life. He cannot write humor, nor can he draw very well. I get sick of hearing about his fiancee and his fans and his blah blah blah... I get sick of seing his protagonist being hit on by "cute" Japanese girls. When the "Piro" character was around, they relied entirely on 1337 speak and 'b33r' for jokes, now they just recycle tired old concepts like 'ph33r the cute ones' (this is the "OMG DOOM SO FUNNY" sense of humor I find particularly revolting and repetitive) and, of course, the main character in clumsy relationships with X cute girl of the week.
Not my cup of tea, but anime fans lap it up like hogs at the trough. I do respect his business savvy; he knows how to sell books to fanboys.
-Z |
Word. MT has gotten worse over the years. It was pretty good in the begining, but now it seems that Fred can't go a week without having to put up a DPD or a SGD. It's impossible to keep up on what's going on with the story when he keeps doing this. It would be tolerable if he would actually get the Story and Characters pages up. You would think that with MT being so popular that Fred would actually bother to put them up.
EDIT: And yeah, Piro does have a lot of fanboys. I got attacked on a few forums because I didn't like MT for the reasons I stated above, and for the fact that Piro started a cool GTA parody and left it on a cliffhanger. I really got burned for that one.
Don;'t get me wrong. MT has it's moments but those are few and far in between nowadays.
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Stueypark
Joined: 10 Aug 2002
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:20 pm
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MT dosen't know what type of comic it's trying to be. It seems like when he starts losing readers from the comic end he starts throwing largo into the strip and when he loses the romance people he throws piro back in. I haven't followed the comic since 2001.
And I'll believe the $10 price when I see it, afertall this is Dark Horse "We can charge $18 for 100 pages" Comics.
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thecactusman17
Joined: 26 Aug 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:49 pm
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I agree with tempest and the wreck--If you fit into the demographics its trying to target, it is actually quite enjoyble. Certainly worth more in its free form than many printed, $3 comics I find in comic stores these days. I think one of the things that appeals to so many is the fact that he DOES write himself into the comic. While the situations are fictional, it's clear that a lot of his own emotion is coming through in the art and writing.
Oh, and note that the DPDs have been coming more and more frequently with the summer anime cons. I think you'll notice that things get more back to normal in terms of frequency during the winter, probably because of the decline in things demanding his attention. And s more people can properly describe than I, it's certainly better than when he was still working as an architect.
While many readers have problems with the somewhat disjointed series of strips in some areas, I'd like to point out that in the first printed volume, things suddenly become much easier to keep track of--more than likely due to the relocation of one-shots, DPDs, and SGDs to the back of the book. It's certainly much easier to jump into than the web version--all of that clutter just becomes too darned frequent if you aren't waiting to see what happens next, or if you're going through the archives. The story's coherency and enjoyability increases dramatically as well, though the shrinking of the art page means you lose some of the amazing detail in the later comics and DPDs.
Oh, and you can't fault his art style. It's very well suited for the web, and serves as an excellent example of fusing both American and Japanese art styles without copying Joe Mad or Adam Warren.
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neko_ewen
Joined: 19 Feb 2002
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Location: San Jose
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 1:23 pm
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It's weird that no one's really trying to put Megatokyo in perspective with other webcomics. Of course, there are only a handfull of webcomics that are in the same league in terms of popularity and commercial success (Penny Arcade, Sluggy, PVP, etc.).
The artwork of MT does have some faults (Piro makes some surprising mistakes now and then), but most of the complaints posted are just a matter of art style, and generally that's nothing more or less than personal taste. Most of the other big webcomics are primarily gag strips; there's minimal continuity (PA actually deliberately tries to have as little continuity as possible) and any storylines that pop up rarely last more than two weeks. There are other webcomics that are as ambitious as MT in terms of plot, but none as popular.
I forgot where I was going with this.
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"If it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid."
-- Some person
"I know I've been a pain, it's just that making comics is hard."
-- Josh Lesnick
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ChichiriMuyo
Joined: 08 Aug 2002
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 2:21 pm
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I think for this being his first major story and him doing the artwork on his own the work put out is very good. Yes, it does seem like it comes at a rather slow pace. If compared to a printed manga it would have to appear in a bi-monthly magazine at the current pace, but if you consider that most if not all manga artists have a team backing them up in art department for backgrounds, cleanup, etc., then his pace isnt all that bad. I've read interviews with Toriyama and he said he only had one assistant to help him with Dragonball and because of that he ended up doing a huge amount of work to keep up with the schedual. With 3 or 4 assistants Piro could easily do a page a day and possibly more, but I don't think he's the type of person that would have anyone helping him with the art for megatokyo. Perhaps once the money starts really rolling in from teh work on megatokyo it can be done quickly and on a regular schedual, but until then you have to expect piro to do all the work and sometimes just crap out on you. Until you have done it yourself for a couple of years you really cant say how hard it is to do. Most of the other big webcomics that keep a regular schedual are much easier to do. PVP for example doesnt have nearly as many panels and they have a lot less detail, but thats a trade off for keeping it daily. I'll admit though, it does kinda suck watching the story drag on so slowly, heh.
PS Neko, Ignition and Interesting Times are awesome.
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thebaron
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Posts: 149
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:20 pm
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I find that Megatokyo is enjoyable, but it is not the best webcomic in story or pacing.
Something Positive just tickles my "dark" side too often ;) The first comic made me laugh too hard....
Real Life Comic has better pacing and fun jumps in plot.
Penny Arcade is good and I could go on and on.
Megatokyo had some very Cool moments from time to time....
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