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The Mad Manga Massacre
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:35 am
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Does anyone else find there's a few too many? They're okay I guess but of the 9 titles running in the magazine over half are YA novel adaptations the majority of which are urban fantasy stories. There's 2 titles set in Victorian era Britain alone running in the magazine simultaneously. The number of manga has really dwindled too while it was a print magazine there were at least 4 manga running usually but recently the only manga its been running is Soul Eater Not. I enjoy the Maximum Ride comic for the good art and I've enjoyed Cassandra Jean's YA novel adaptations but I'd rather see them release original content from these artists (and more manga and manhwa) then yet another adaptation of a teen urban fantasy title.
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thenix
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:37 am
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I subscribed to yen plus the first year but stopped getting subscriptions to anything. I really liked the manga in it but I started wanting to get the individual volumes instead of a magazine. I really liked almost everything in it at the time though
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Dessa
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:47 am
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I should point out, that not all of their titles are YA. In fact, one of your "Victorian era Britain" titles is NOT YA. Gail Carriger's Blameless (or are they onto Heartless? I know Blameless is coming out in volume form pretty soon) is adult fiction.
Also, if you look at their lists of what they publish, the OEL works are the 2nd shortest list (the shortest is the Manhua). When I got my complimentary subscription from joining their mailing list, half of their monthly offerings were traditional manga, and half were of non-Japanese origin, which I think is a perfectly fine balance.
Finally, the novel-to-graphic novel market is big right now. It's bringing fans of the novels into the graphic novel arena, and bringing fans of manga into the novels. It's a win-win situation, and I can't wait for Way of Shadows to come out, because I'm a huge Brent Weeks fan.
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The Mad Manga Massacre
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:32 am
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Dessa wrote: | I should point out, that not all of their titles are YA. In fact, one of your "Victorian era Britain" titles is NOT YA. Gail Carriger's Blameless (or are they onto Heartless? I know Blameless is coming out in volume form pretty soon) is adult fiction.
Also, if you look at their lists of what they publish, the OEL works are the 2nd shortest list (the shortest is the Manhua). When I got my complimentary subscription from joining their mailing list, half of their monthly offerings were traditional manga, and half were of non-Japanese origin, which I think is a perfectly fine balance.
Finally, the novel-to-graphic novel market is big right now. It's bringing fans of the novels into the graphic novel arena, and bringing fans of manga into the novels. It's a win-win situation, and I can't wait for Way of Shadows to come out, because I'm a huge Brent Weeks fan. |
Sorry, I didn't know Soulless was aimed at adult readers. But the only manga presently running in Yen Plus is Soul Eater Not! Milkyway Hitchhiking (which I thoroughly enjoy) is from South Korea as is Aron's Absurd Armada and Jack Frost. I really do enjoy the magazine and at least some of the novel adaptations.
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LKK
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 4:32 pm
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Yen Press's principle source of manga is through their business alliance with Square Enix. Around the time that Yen Plus moved online, Square Enix announced its own online reading site and denied Yen Press online rights to its titles. IIRC, Square Enix recently announced the closing of its own online reading site. My hope is that Yen Press will now be able to offer its Square Enix titles once again in Yen Plus. Even though I thoroughly enjoy their novel adaptations and I don't feel that there are too many, I would like to see more manga like there was in the original print Yen Plus.
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littlegreenwolf
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 4:47 pm
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I didn't like them at all until Soulless because the quality has just been crap to me, but Soulless surprised me; I love it.
I don't mind at all they're doing novel adaptions. It's a huge industry in Japan (seriously, look at how many manga/anime are based off books), and I'm not sure of the actual price of adaptions, but they are possibly saving some money with "in house" properties which already have dedicated fan bases. If the books sell, chances are the people who like the books might pick up the comic and vise versa. It's promotion for either the book or the manga, and I'm hoping this is a major success for them because the adaptions can only get better from here on out.
I'm not a fan of the YA selections really, but I was so looking forward to the Clockwork Prince/infernal devices series. Then I saw the artwork and I cringed... a lot. Unfortunately, unlike with Soulless, the art is just too... UGH for me to invest in buying the book, even if I'm a fan of the book series. Infernal Devices is supernatural Victorian steam punk, with pretty boys and the like. If they had a great artist, the comic would have appealed to a huge steampunk niche, but the art was subpart generic manga. Soulless I think has to thank REM for the comic's success. I had read the book years ago when I worked the bookstore and didn't find it that great, but the art on the comic sold the series for me. If Yen Press can find more REMs, I'll happily support these comics.
I guess I really want to see it do well because I, being an illustrator/comic artist, hope for a job with them in the future. I like that REM is a North American artist, versus the Korean ones they usually hire, and that gives me hope for my career's future, even if I never ever bother to send in my portfolio to them. Plus Soulless was for an older, FEMALE audience, written and illustrated by women, so I'm all for supporting ANY comic like that, be it manga or American.
My only complaint with what they do however is they cram way too much into a single volume. One book that was over 150 pages should not equal one graphic novel. The pacing is screwed up, and a lot is left over. Soulless' comic feels a bit rushed because of it, and leaves out a lot of little scenes from the books that contribute towards character development. In comparison with manga adaptions of light novels which they seem to be emulating, one light novel volume which is usually 150 pages (I'm using The Earl and Fairy and Good Witch of the West as examples since I've read both the books and the manga that are adapted from them) typically produces two volumes of manga. It's something I think Yen Press should learn from. It leaves volumes ending on cliff hangers more, and it'd get rid of the horrible rushed feeling I get with their comic adaptions.
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Dessa
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:21 pm
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^ I'm glad I wasn't the only one who has problems with the Infernal Devices artwork. And not just the style, it's the "uber-shoujo"-ness of it. EVERYONE is beautiful. Yes, many of the characters are described as that. But, say, Sophie? Who is explicitly stated to have a horrible scar disfiguring her face, because her former employer decided that if he couldn't have her (he tried to force her to have sex with him, she refused), he'd make sure she'd be so ugly that no one would take her in again? Oh, a little tiny line on the side of her face, that can barely be seen.
Also, if you like Gail's work, you should follow her on twitter if you have it. She posts fun things, like "Ivy Hat Bombs" (they're bad, but they're real, historical hats).
Also, look forward to Way of Shadows. I saw some artwork by the announced artist, and I really like his style.
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The Mad Manga Massacre
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:46 am
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littlegreenwolf wrote: | I didn't like them at all until Soulless because the quality has just been crap to me, but Soulless surprised me; I love it.
I don't mind at all they're doing novel adaptions. It's a huge industry in Japan (seriously, look at how many manga/anime are based off books), and I'm not sure of the actual price of adaptions, but they are possibly saving some money with "in house" properties which already have dedicated fan bases. If the books sell, chances are the people who like the books might pick up the comic and vise versa. It's promotion for either the book or the manga, and I'm hoping this is a major success for them because the adaptions can only get better from here on out.
I'm not a fan of the YA selections really, but I was so looking forward to the Clockwork Prince/infernal devices series. Then I saw the artwork and I cringed... a lot. Unfortunately, unlike with Soulless, the art is just too... UGH for me to invest in buying the book, even if I'm a fan of the book series. Infernal Devices is supernatural Victorian steam punk, with pretty boys and the like. If they had a great artist, the comic would have appealed to a huge steampunk niche, but the art was subpart generic manga. Soulless I think has to thank REM for the comic's success. I had read the book years ago when I worked the bookstore and didn't find it that great, but the art on the comic sold the series for me. If Yen Press can find more REMs, I'll happily support these comics.
I guess I really want to see it do well because I, being an illustrator/comic artist, hope for a job with them in the future. I like that REM is a North American artist, versus the Korean ones they usually hire, and that gives me hope for my career's future, even if I never ever bother to send in my portfolio to them. Plus Soulless was for an older, FEMALE audience, written and illustrated by women, so I'm all for supporting ANY comic like that, be it manga or American.
My only complaint with what they do however is they cram way too much into a single volume. One book that was over 150 pages should not equal one graphic novel. The pacing is screwed up, and a lot is left over. Soulless' comic feels a bit rushed because of it, and leaves out a lot of little scenes from the books that contribute towards character development. In comparison with manga adaptions of light novels which they seem to be emulating, one light novel volume which is usually 150 pages (I'm using The Earl and Fairy and Good Witch of the West as examples since I've read both the books and the manga that are adapted from them) typically produces two volumes of manga. It's something I think Yen Press should learn from. It leaves volumes ending on cliff hangers more, and it'd get rid of the horrible rushed feeling I get with their comic adaptions. |
I have been enjoying Soulless as well somewhat. I think your spot on with the problems it has. I think all three of the James Patterson comics which ran in the magazine have/had the same problem as Soulless (namely pacing issues) I really enjoyed REM's artwork and I checked out more of her work because of Soulless. The Infernal Devices... exists. The artist was much better suited for the Gossip Girl comic which ran a few years ago in the magazine.
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