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NEWS: Oldboy's Park Confirms No Involvement in Spike Lee's Remake




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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:56 pm Reply with quote
Must really suck for the original mangaka that nobody even gives a thought to him.
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Yeah, Amazed at how bad it will be in comparison. I just don't see why its being remade. Its a great film now leave it alone. We don't need another 'The Departed' *shudders*
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:20 pm Reply with quote
blaizevincent wrote:
Yeah, Amazed at how bad it will be in comparison. I just don't see why its being remade. Its a great film now leave it alone. We don't need another 'The Departed' *shudders*


Scorsese's remake is excellent because it comes from a seasoned filmmaker who knows what the hell he's doing (and has been for the last... 30-40 years) and I prefer it to the original.

This remake will probably be fine if 25th Hour is any indication.

(the most interesting movie I've seen from Park is Thirst anyway... and in the context of the Vengeance trilogy, I like Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance a lot better than the other two movies)

That said, I'm more surprised that no one is talking about Park's new movie...

Which just came out, apparently...

lol

EDIT:

Actually, I'm not sure if it's out... trying to find show times...

EDIT EDIT:

what

Distribution for this movie is awful... I can't figure out where the hell the thing is showing.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:04 pm Reply with quote
DKL wrote:

(the most interesting movie I've seen from Park is Thirst anyway... and in the context of the Vengeance trilogy, I like Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance a lot better than the other two movies)


I haven't seen Thirst, the synopsis didn't really entice me.
Even though I think Oldboy is my personal favorite of the trilogy, undeniably for its violence and dramatic climax. I do consider Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance the most humorous of the three and it does have outstanding qualities in comparison to the other two. I didn't really enjoy Mrs Vengeance, it was a little too shallow for my liking.

But I'll be watching the remake just to see if it works as a film separate from the first adaptation. I'll try not to draw comparisons between the two films but I doubt I'll be able to uphold that.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:31 pm Reply with quote
From what I remember of it, Oldboy is not a very emotionally complex movie.

(this is not a reflection on the original manga, which I've not read)

The twist ending was more gross-out than profound, really.

(though the extremity of how the main character deals with it may fool some viewers into thinking otherwise... great performance though)

But man... it was a seriously stylish movie.

Everything looked so good.... it's kinda like where David Fincher was at before Zodiac.

If you're going solely based on that sense of style, I'm not sure Lee can compete with Park (but then, I've really only seen 25th Hour... which I really really liked up until I realized that it was essentially a movie about Edward Norton being scared of being anally raped in jail, which suddenly reminded me of a running joke on The Boondocks).
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:53 pm Reply with quote
OP my thoughts exactly. Old Boy is a Japanese manga, yet people always act like the Korean movie was the original.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:25 pm Reply with quote
DKL wrote:
blaizevincent wrote:
Yeah, Amazed at how bad it will be in comparison. I just don't see why its being remade. Its a great film now leave it alone. We don't need another 'The Departed' *shudders*


Scorsese's remake is excellent because it comes from a seasoned filmmaker who knows what the hell he's doing (and has been for the last... 30-40 years) and I prefer it to the original.


Sad that 3-4 decades of experience culminated in a ham fisted, childish, out of left field revenge ending wrap up with an overtly symbolic actual rat right before credit roll. Might as well have made it an "It was all a dream!" ending...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:51 pm Reply with quote
DKL wrote:

Distribution for this movie is awful... I can't figure out where the hell the thing is showing.


Stoker is in limited release. It'll expand over the coming weeks. If you don't live in New York or LA, it isn't showing near you yet, but it likely will eventually sometime between now and April.

Distribution isn't "awful", this is how it's done for small films like this one.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:23 pm Reply with quote
joshjoshlol wrote:
Might as well have made it an "It was all a dream!" ending...


I liked it: movie had enough humor to poke fun at the complexity of the plot (which isn't nearly as turbulent as the movie's emotional complexity) and the thing wraps up nicely in that the audience gets to connect some dots.

(though, rather than Walhberg's appearance, I was always more intrigued with Damon's reaction to the thing... actually, the entire irony surrounding Damon's character was probably my favorite thing about the movie and something I really don't remember being in the original (but it's been a while since I've seen it))

Zac wrote:

Distribution isn't "awful", this is how it's done for small films like this one.


I was initially under the impression that it was already done with the limited release, actually (first places I went to were like Fandango and whatever since I was hungry for tickets).

That said, I don't know why, but I'm under the impression that I was able to see a bunch of other Fox Searchlight pictures during the limited releases out in my area...

But my memory is hazy (mostly remembered wanting to see 127 hours at the theater, but then I got lazy).

(movie apparently went limited release on Nov. 5th 2010, then went onto places like San Francisco on Nov. 19th, 2010... hm...)

EDIT:

Ah, here we go:

http://jabcatmovies.com/2013/02/stoker-release-date-and-us-theaters/

Cool, I don't have to wait that long... thing will be out in SF in 2 weeks.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:46 am Reply with quote
I actually really like how Park is viewing this whole project. While fans of the first adaptation are up in arms, he's being very "chill" about it. I hope Lee does the story justice. While I'm a fan of the Korean film (moreso than the manga), I'm open to seeing a new take on the material. I'm just going to really miss that wonderful, beautiful score....

Still, please let this be better than "Let Me In." Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:23 am Reply with quote
joshjoshlol wrote:
DKL wrote:
blaizevincent wrote:
Yeah, Amazed at how bad it will be in comparison. I just don't see why its being remade. Its a great film now leave it alone. We don't need another 'The Departed' *shudders*


Scorsese's remake is excellent because it comes from a seasoned filmmaker who knows what the hell he's doing (and has been for the last... 30-40 years) and I prefer it to the original.


Sad that 3-4 decades of experience culminated in a ham fisted, childish, out of left field revenge ending wrap up with an overtly symbolic actual rat right before credit roll. Might as well have made it an "It was all a dream!" ending...


Agreed. Don't even get me started with the added romance plot in Scorsese's film. He's film also lacked the tension/suspense of the original film as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:11 am Reply with quote
"Park's live-action film is itself an adaptation of Garon Tsuchiya and Nobuaki Minegishi's Oldboy manga."

Not really what does it have in common?

Guy gets locked up, released, wants to find out who and why. End of similarities.

Probably has more in common with the Wizard of Oz.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:11 pm Reply with quote
blaizevincent wrote:
Yeah, Amazed at how bad it will be in comparison. I just don't see why its being remade. Its a great film now leave it alone. We don't need another 'The Departed' *shudders*


uh, where were you when Japan announced a remake of the oscar winning film, Unforgiven. These comments make me facepalm because we always attack Hollywood/USA for remaking Asian films but not the opposite because Asia has been remaking American films for the last few years. Where's the complaint for that??? So does Asia get a free pass from criticism and backlashes whenever they remake American films?? Tell me how is Asia remaking American films (or any foreign films) any different from American remaking Asian films. South Korea already remake A Better Tomorrow, a famous HK film:



Korea is going to remake a french film, Point Blank.

What if South Korea decide to remake this film:



Let say the remake had Jessica or Tiffany from Girls Generation playing Jenna Dewan's character, and G-Dragon of BIGBANG played Channing Tatum's character.

Look I don't mind remake, but geez, if you're going to criticize US for remaking Asian films, do the same when Asia remake American films. I'm getting fed up with this pro-Asian double standard (and this make Asian like me look bad).

I like to add The Departed is probably the best remake of an Asian film ever.
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