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Manga using polite (-masu) form




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sukotto



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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:26 pm Reply with quote
Hi, I know absolutely nothing about manga, but I live in Tokyo and am studying Japanese. I was hoping someone may know of manga that uses the polite verb forms. I think there are a few authors who do this.

Subject matter is not too much of a concern, it's kana practice that I am looking for.

Thanks!
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frentymon
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:40 pm Reply with quote
As far as I know, manga with polite characters will use -masu form often. I don't think it's a matter of the author, just whether the manga has characters who are respectful in some way.

Almost all manga use "-masu" somewhere, I think.
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sukotto



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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 8:16 pm Reply with quote
I had heard mention of authors who use it as the default level, as opposed to dictionary form. I don't remember who, though.
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Arkard



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 11:10 am Reply with quote
Thats the same as asking which Western author likes using the semicolon (Wink. You can try browsing the manga by genre. The more "serious" the manga is the higher the chance you will see a high percentage of "masu" forms. That being said, the overusage of -masu is totally unnatural in Japan. I guess higher class ladies would use that, but other than that, it`s just weird.
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alice20th



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 12:02 pm Reply with quote
If I read you right, you want manga that almost exclusively uses the masu/desu forms because those are the forms that you know best, correct?

Then I'm afraid you'll have a rough time finding a manga for that purpose. The strength of manga (especially Shounen and Shoujo manga that has furigana) is that they are about strong bonds of friendship and love, and those subjects tend to lead the books to the intimate verb forms.

Maison Ikkoku used a lot of masu/desu language, but they don't use furigana on the kanji, so you'll have to look up kanji by radical and stroke number to understand what's being said.

I'll suggest what worked best for me. I started with a series from the 80s called Kimagure Orange Road by Izumi Matsumoto. It was popular, so you should be able to find it in Japanese bookstores and manga shops that carry used books. It uses a little masu/desu, but it's also a pretty good primer on intimate verbs as well. If you know the "te" forms of the verbs and what those forms mean, then you should get along fine with KOR.
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hayakunero



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:38 pm Reply with quote
sukotto wrote:
Hi, I know absolutely nothing about manga, but I live in Tokyo and am studying Japanese. I was hoping someone may know of manga that uses the polite verb forms. I think there are a few authors who do this.

Subject matter is not too much of a concern, it's kana practice that I am looking for.

Thanks!

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Why don't you ask Japanese? You live in Japan, don't you? Is it too embarassing for you to ask them? Or no Japanese you know read manga? (Most grown-up Japanese don't read manga.)
I think learning Japanese from manga is a wrong way if you really want to speak Japanese used in Japan. You need to take classes.
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:41 pm Reply with quote
I know this series is brought up all the time, but Honda Tohru from Fruits Basket always uses keigo, so you might be able to learn from her.
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dovienya



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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:01 pm Reply with quote
fighterholic wrote:
I know this series is brought up all the time, but Honda Tohru from Fruits Basket always uses keigo, so you might be able to learn from her.


...Keigo is a totally different form than the regular "-masu" forms of verbs. It's a whole new level of politeness involving the humbling of oneself, and in several cases uses entirely different verbs than regular speech.
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