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Nirvana



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:47 pm Reply with quote
Have you guys noticed that they're ALWAYS (or so it seems) love songs... and many times it has nothign to do wiht the anime itself! Why....?

(I dindt put this in music section because I'm more concerned about the anime aspect)
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:11 pm Reply with quote
In case you haven't noticed (this isn't limited to anime and Japan) many popular songs are about love no matter where you look. Love is just a popular theme in songs. I think most animes have to do with love though, whether it's the focus of the show or not. It doesn't have to be sexual or boy/girl love either, it could just be the love between friends.
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IchigoK90



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 5:20 pm Reply with quote
Since I understand little to no japanese except for usual phrases like "good morning" or "i'm off" I don't mind if the song is a love song since I can't understand it anyways. Besides for me even if the song is in english I tend not to care about the lyrics unless the song is a slow song like say "Dance With My Father Again" by Luther Vandross (damn thats a sad song). This is because I focus more on the instruments and the way the sound comes out of the instruments (like say if it sounds sad or something that gets you pumped up). Thats just me though.

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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 5:21 pm Reply with quote
Nirvana wrote:
Have you guys noticed that they're ALWAYS (or so it seems) love songs... and many times it has nothign to do wiht the anime itself! Why....?

Wrong. Not every opening is a song with lyrics. Some of them are just pieces of music with no kind of vocals. Trigun, Gungrave, Monster, Cowby Bebop, Crest/Banner of the Stars; are all of those love songs? No, they're not even songs, and they certainly have nothing to do with love.

And yeah, I'm sure songs like "Bomb A Head!" (Tenjou Tenge), "Tell Me Why" (Berserk), or "Big O" (Big O) have anything and everything to do with romance Rolling Eyes.
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HitokiriShadow



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:25 pm Reply with quote
Nirvana wrote:
Have you guys noticed that they're ALWAYS (or so it seems) love songs... and many times it has nothign to do wiht the anime itself! Why....?


I'm not sure what you are watching, but I've seen lots of anime and I've seen very few 'love songs' for openings. Usually, love will only be a theme in the song if its a big aspect of the anime.

Out of the dozen anime I am watching fansubbed right now, only opening (Ouran High School Host Club) one has anything to do with love, and it's hardly a 'love song.' Out of the ten or so DVD series I am collecting, none involve 'love' in the opening. Of the roughly 40 anime series I have completed collecting, the only one whose openings involves love (that I can recall) is Ceres.

This is strictly openings I am talking about, but I'm not seeing this pattern you seem to see.
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Wolverine Princess



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:40 pm Reply with quote
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No, they're not even songs, and they certainly have nothing to do with love.


Um, a song is a song regardless of if it has lyrics or not.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:51 pm Reply with quote
I can only suggest to stop watching romantic anime for a while.

The thing I don't understand well, is the relationship of a song to the anime. This mostly happens with lyrics. Maybe it is something that gets lost in translation, but I think it is also like Japanese commercials on TV. WHAT? HUH? What am I supposed to want to buy after watching that? I didn't understand one commercial when my ship was in Yokusuka for 3 months, not the language, but the product.

I think most romantic anime have suitable music, but the lyrics leave me flat. Guess that means I am a spoiled American, where the shows songs tell you all about the show.
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Fui



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:51 pm Reply with quote
Actually usually OPs have a correlation between the images in the OP and the song itself. True, animes typically don't have their own special theme song (like teenage mutant ninja turtles or even the animes that air in the US like "Cardcaptors" or Pokemon.) Rather, they take a hot new single and choreograph the OP according to the song depending on the lyrics or mood of the song (well the edited TV size version). Anyway, since the only thing I can really compare between is the original JP theme songs and the new theme songs created when they air in the US, I pretty much always prefer the original version anyway. Making a special theme song just for the series usually turns out to be rather cheesy.
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Wolverine Princess



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:05 pm Reply with quote
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Rather, they take a hot new single and choreograph the OP according to the song depending on the lyrics or mood of the song (well the edited TV size version).


Well, older anime nearly always had theme-songs made especially for the series because the super-popular musicians didn't want to be labled as people who made "otaku music."

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Making a special theme song just for the series usually turns out to be rather cheesy.


I really like the Dokuro-chan theme. And the Teen Titans theme is okay, but I'm biased because I really like Puffy Amiyumi. I like the Japanese version better, even though TT is an American show because they're English is a little hard to understand. The first time I heard the English theme I thought it was sung in Japanese[/quote]
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:56 pm Reply with quote
Wolverine Princess wrote:
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even though TT is an American show because they're English is a little hard to understand. The first time I heard the English theme I thought it was sung in Japanese


I thought it was sung by Japanese girls myself.

Good to know that they're using popular songs for OP/ends. Makes it like "Friends" then don't it? But that doesn't explain why so many songs sound like they were written by the same person who wrote the theme from "the Love Boat."

I'd like to go to a jazz club if they were playing Yoko Kanno tunes! But most jazz played is "cool" or "smooth" Razz Actually any anime jazz would be really cool to me!
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Stupidman007



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 11:46 pm Reply with quote
One possible reason for many anime OP and ED to often be love songs is because they are often J-pop, and J-pop is often about love. Well, not just J-pop, but pop songs in general are about love, so really, what else can you expect? If an anime theme is rap music, then you'd expect it to not be about love. Basically, anime theme songs are no different from American music.
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joel_s95387



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:05 am Reply with quote
The Gantz theme song is another song that's not about "love", here's a small part of it... "Die Die Die, Die Die Die Die Die Die"... see, no love what-so-ever.

You've just made what we in the English language community call a fallacy. Hasty Generalization, you saw a couple of anime that had love songs so you assumed that most do, when in fact it's only most of the ones you saw, but you haven't seen all anime have you?

It's like saying there are "ALWAYS" Giant Robots in anime. Which can be proven false by just about any anime viewer.
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Ohoni



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:21 am Reply with quote
Typically, the ending theme to an anime is an emotional, slower song, either romantic, or at the very least sentimental. This isn't always the case, but probably 9 out of 10. Opening themes generally match the tone of the show more, being up-tempo rock or dance songs if the show is an action show, for example. Some are semi-romantic, but not most.
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:30 am Reply with quote
Wolverine Princess wrote:
Um, a song is a song regardless of if it has lyrics or not.

Wikipeida wrote:
A song is a relatively short musical composition for the human voice (possibly accompanied by other musical instruments), which features words (lyrics).

With many more definitions here. And no, I don't buy that stuff about instrumental pieces being a song through symbolism. Sing/song, do you see the similarity in the words? You can't sing a piano concerto, you play it on a piano. You can't sing Beethoven's 5th, you play it through an orchestra. You can't sing "H.T.," you play it with a bunch of electric guitars.

A song requires you to sing. Sing a song, play a piece of music through one or several instruments.
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:39 am Reply with quote
I don't think all anime songs are about love. Some are about finding hope, some are about love, and some, as joel mentioned, are about death and all that ritualistic crap. Like the stuff by Morning Musume and Matsuura Aya are all lovey dovey type stuff. Ideal for Otakus.
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