Forum - View topicQuestion [Dramatic Pauses Before Battle & the "Cata
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wanirose
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Sorry, I don't know exactly what to call this topic, so I just put "Question".
Anyways, in many anime series and movies, during a competition or battle, there will usually be a stand off, and neither player will move. However, once a leaf or something small hits the ground, the battle begins. If you do not understand this explanation, what I am saying can be seen in Kenshin when spoiler[Kenshin and Shishiro are battling. They did not start the battle until a leaf hit the floor.] Is there some kind of meaning behind this or is it just a good way to start the battle? Thank you for your input 
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hentai4me
 Posts: 1313 Location: England. Robin is so Cute! |
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Ahhh stand offs.
Its just a suspense thing, by having the leaf/wind blow/water trickle/etc you et a feeling of something about to happen in 1...2...3...4! |
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Key
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It's just a common anime dramatic convention that probably has its origin in live-action samurai movies. It's the same with the "passing shot" scene that you see in so many different anime involving head-to-head fights. (By this I mean the scenes where two combatants charge at each other, swing as they're passing by, move a few steps past and stop for a moment before one or both fall.)
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Thanatos01s2
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It's like in western's. Two guys face each other and then draw when the time is right. It gives a "fair" chance for both to begin the battle on their own terms. Speed is the most important thing in a duel. Also the leaf was just like someone saying GO!!!!!!!!!!.
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hentai4me
Posts: 1313 Location: England. Robin is so Cute! |
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God I hate that...I always wonder why one of these 'amazing' warriors doesnt just side step and pivot...I've seen people who've never handled a weapon before who know how to move sideways...why cant our 'super' warriors do it... |
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jousha
 Posts: 205 Location: the floating world |
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I don't think it is that they can't, but instead that they choose not to. It's like a gun duel in every way but the weapons being used: they don't dodge, they just see who can strike first. It's a match of skill and honor.
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Zalis116
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I think it's just Japanese dramatic convention, used in live action movies and probably in Noh/Kabuki and other traditional theater before that. Watch "7 Samurai"; even casual anime fans should be able to spot a couple scenes that could have been from any given anime.
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outlawwolf
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This has been used in live action movies here too. One that comes to mind is the final scene in The Quick and the Dead. Gene Hackman and Sharon Stone square off in the middle of town and they have to wait till either the clock hits twelve, or a cloud passes from the sky ( haven't seen the movie in a while). It's all meant to increase the tension and give more drama to when the deed finally happens.
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Monumension
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Also see Sergio Leone's The Good, the Bad and the Ugly from 1966 which features a three-way standoff between Clint Eastwood, Lee Van Cleef and Eli Wallach that lasts for half an eternity. It's almost unbearable in it's tension. I'm not sure if it's the first one that's drawn out like this, but it seems like one of the most influental. |
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Gauss
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In Angelic Layer there's a scene where two evenly matched opponents just stand there until an object hits the ground. Then they explode into action because one of them sees an ever so small but crucial advantage in the tiny disturbance created when it hits the layer. So that humble leaf might have additional uses beyond being an ersatz gong in a boxing ring.
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jousha
Posts: 205 Location: the floating world |
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Akira Kurosawa influenced Sergio Leone, who influenced everyone else thereafter. Kyuzo's first appearance in Seven Samurai seems to be a precursor to the later dramatic-enhancing styles of Leone. You could be right about The Good the Bad and the Ugly drawing it out the furthest (without it taking away the effect). I love how the multi-cultural influences of art goes round. |
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Monumension
Posts: 268 Location: Norway |
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I agree. And you can probably link the inspirations even longer when you know Kurosawa was influenced by western director Jon Ford. 
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