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Dargonxtc



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:13 am Reply with quote
Warning: Anyone can post. No Spoilers, None, Not even blacked out ones. Let me Clarifiy. no Spoilers for future episodes is what I mean, Talk about what happened in this show and the ones that came before all you want. Sorry for the confusion.

I was wondering peoples impressions of the 3rd episode of Eurekia 7? That's it, simple question. I am especially interested in the opinions of those who the show is new too, but anyone is welcome of course. Very Happy


My opinion I will keep short. I liked it. This maybe the episode that speeds up the show. I think it picked up its pace, and definitely showed its production value. I think I may be hooked. I will leave it at that for now.

Oh, and I know there were new Inuyasha, and Stand Alone Complex. However they have a very long track record. So mine and most others opinion of them are pretty firm. But if you can't resist, go for it.


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Alex K.



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:25 pm Reply with quote
While I think this is a good idea, you shouldn't be making the same thread for multiple shows. What you should do is make a general thread for each week asking people what they thought of the new anime that aired and they can specify which show(s) they liked in their post.

Also, the whole point of blacking out a spoiler is to avoid spoiling the story for people who haven't seen it yet. You can't tell people not to put them in, since the story is what people usually talk about. Rolling Eyes

Anyway, I liked last night's episode of SAC. The Major was still acting strange from spoiler[her getting the new guy killed]. I liked how Batou told her they didn't need her that badly and she had no problem with him "talking to her like that." I also liked the visual imagery, such as the birds that landed on the railing as Batou and Gouda talked. But what I DIDN'T like was finding out that spoiler[Gouda is still a virgin]. Ugh.

I would also have some comments for Naruto, but I was at a birthday party and missed it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:13 pm Reply with quote
After seeing three episodes of Eureka 7 I'm still not too sure about it. The whole premise of the series (surfboarding in the air?) seems shaky to me, and Johnny Yong Bosch's voice for the main character isn't working for me - and no, I haven't seen it subbed, so I'm not comparing it to the original. The plot doesn't make much sense so far, either. The dub otherwise seems fine, and the revelation that spoiler[Eureka really does have children] threw me for a loop. I'll definitely watch the next episode to see if that's explained more, but I haven't committed to this one for the duration yet.

GITS: SAC 2nd Gig just continues to impress me in every aspect of its production and storytelling. This is as complex and high-concept a series as anime get, and it's a joy to watch even though it strains your brain to keep all the details straight. (And yes, Gouda's revelation was a bit, um, interesting, but I'm glad to see that issue finally came up given the existence and use of fully cybernetic bodies. GITS: SAC has consistently dodged around issue like that so far.) It would undisputably be the best series of the year if a little series called Gankutsuou wasn't in the picture.

As for Naruto? The next time a Naruto fanatic tries to convince me that the series is so much better than DBZ I'm going to point out how Naruto D R A G S every bit as much as DBZ ever did. It feels like about 5 minutes of actual story progress happened in that episode (the one where spoiler[Rock Lee comes to help Sakura while Naruto and Sousuke are incapacitated during their second chunin test], for those Naruto fans who aren't following the broadcast) and that's hardly the first time I've felt that about the series. Am glad to see that Sakura's apparently finally going to do something in the next episode, though.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:14 pm Reply with quote
Alex K. wrote:
While I think this is a good idea, you shouldn't be making the same thread for multiple shows. What you should do is make a general thread for each week asking people what they thought of the new anime that aired and they can specify which show(s) they liked in their post.

In the future I will do this. I wanted to keep them separate because I thought one went well and one didn't.
Alex k. wrote:
Also, the whole point of blacking out a spoiler is to avoid spoiling the story for people who haven't seen it yet. You can't tell people not to put them in, since the story is what people usually talk about. Rolling Eyes

Let me Clarifiy. no Spoilers for future episodes is what I mean, Talk about what happened in this show and the ones that came before all you want. Sorry for the confusion.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:27 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
As for Naruto? The next time a Naruto fanatic tries to convince me that the series is so much better than DBZ I'm going to point out how Naruto D R A G S every bit as much as DBZ ever did. It feels like about 5 minutes of actual story progress happened in that episode.

My post about Naruto got deleted. My comments I had there I will type here. Which is very much like yours. I actually said out loud at the end of the episode, "This is just DBZ with better production values". It is sad because I think the story is actually quite good.
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The Great Melinko



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Key wrote:
After seeing three episodes of Eureka 7 I'm still not too sure about it. The whole premise of the series (surfboarding in the air?) seems shaky to me, and Johnny Yong Bosch's voice for the main character isn't working for me - and no, I haven't seen it subbed, so I'm not comparing it to the original. The plot doesn't make much sense so far, either. The dub otherwise seems fine, and the revelation that spoiler[Eureka really does have children] threw me for a loop. I'll definitely watch the next episode to see if that's explained more, but I haven't committed to this one for the duration yet.

GITS: SAC 2nd Gig just continues to impress me in every aspect of its production and storytelling. This is as complex and high-concept a series as anime get, and it's a joy to watch even though it strains your brain to keep all the details straight. (And yes, Gouda's revelation was a bit, um, interesting, but I'm glad to see that issue finally came up given the existence and use of fully cybernetic bodies. GITS: SAC has consistently dodged around issue like that so far.) It would undisputably be the best series of the year if a little series called Gankutsuou wasn't in the picture.

As for Naruto? The next time a Naruto fanatic tries to convince me that the series is so much better than DBZ I'm going to point out how Naruto D R A G S every bit as much as DBZ ever did. It feels like about 5 minutes of actual story progress happened in that episode (the one where spoiler[Rock Lee comes to help Sakura while Naruto and Sousuke are incapacitated during their second chunin test], for those Naruto fans who aren't following the broadcast) and that's hardly the first time I've felt that about the series. Am glad to see that Sakura's apparently finally going to do something in the next episode, though.


dont worry, Eureka seven picks up in later episodes. In the end, it's really quite good.

even though i missed like half of the first portion of the show....
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:23 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
After seeing three episodes of Eureka 7 I'm still not too sure about it. The whole premise of the series (surfboarding in the air?) seems shaky to me, and Johnny Yong Bosch's voice for the main character isn't working for me - and no, I haven't seen it subbed, so I'm not comparing it to the original. The plot doesn't make much sense so far, either. The dub otherwise seems fine, and the revelation that spoiler[Eureka really does have children] threw me for a loop. I'll definitely watch the next episode to see if that's explained more, but I haven't committed to this one for the duration yet.


it's not gonna be explained for a few more episodes, but trust me it's a real eye opener.
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I, too, am waiting for Eureka Seven to pick up to see if I like it enough to go all out and start buying the series.

As for the episodes I have seen, I think they've been pretty solid. Last night's episode is the episode that I think will pick up the series and get it running. I have a few speculations that stemmed from last nights episode, too. The first of which is that spoiler[the reason Eureka acts so weird is because she's some type of cyborg.] I don't know about that one though. But it's what I think is coming in the future. The second would have to be spoiler[that Eureka's "children" are some abandoned children that she picked up while on her journey with Holland.] As my last one, spoiler[when she tells Renton that he reminds her of someone, she was talking about his father, who's relationship with Holland will be further explained.]

So far I like the series. It's showed some promise, but not enough to completely grab my attention.
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Okay, I've watched up to episode 37 of Eureka 7 so far, subbed.

There's going to be kind of a slow point in the series now. From episodes 4 to about 11 or 12, there's kind of a slow moving process for the series. You don't really get much story at all and you don't really find out THAT much about the characters.

Then, after that, the story really picks up and it becomes a very cool anime series.

So, I'm just giving you guys a little heads up. Don't let the next 7 episodes or so ruin your judgment about the series because its really good once it gets by that slow point.

There's still some good things to get out of the episodes between 4-11 so still watch them please. Very Happy
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I've only seen the TV episodes (and read the volume 1 manga that came with the DVD vol 1+box; it is heavily condensed and not very good) and I'm positive those aren't really Eureka's children. They are almost certainly abandoned/orphaned children and Eureka is a surrogate mother to them.
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HitokiriShadow wrote:
I've only seen the TV episodes (and read the volume 1 manga that came with the DVD vol 1+box; it is heavily condensed and not very good) and I'm positive those aren't really Eureka's children. They are almost certainly abandoned/orphaned children and Eureka is a surrogate mother to them.


I've seen only the TV episodes, but I agree with you.

This is a part from Newtype USA On-line

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These first few episodes feature Renton trying to find his place among Gekkostate’s motley crew, ranging from a world-class air-surfer and his conniving girlfriend to Eureka’s “children”—whose existence rocks Renton’s world, since he’s (naturally) nurturing a crush on the pilot.


For the entire article just in case I'm wrong -

http://www.newtype-usa.com/reviews/index.php?itemid=252#more
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After seeing three episodes of Eureka 7 I'm still not too sure about it. The whole premise of the series (surfboarding in the air?) seems shaky to me,


That's not really the "premise" per se, it's just one of th series' gimicks. The actual premis is a bit deeper, and is more related to their interaction with the millitary.

The mechanics of it also make more sense the more of the show you watch, trust me.

Also, that thing with Eureka is explained in a few episodes too.

Like most anime of this length though, expect the next half-dozen episodes or so to be more about showing all the characters and linking them together with fairly one-shot stories, then for the actual plot to kick in around episode 12 or so (like in Trigun, Eva, Scryed, and almost every other 26-52 episode series).

I enjoyed the one shot episodes, but some people are overly-anxious to get into the "action" ASAP.

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As for Naruto? The next time a Naruto fanatic tries to convince me that the series is so much better than DBZ I'm going to point out how Naruto D R A G S every bit as much as DBZ ever did.


Most, if not all of Naruto's fans are fans of the manga, which does not drag much at all, and are therefore fans of the anime because it's the manga in motion. Pretty much any long-format anime based on an ongoing manga is subject to SOME form of stretching.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:52 am Reply with quote
Ohoni wrote:
Most, if not all of Naruto's fans are fans of the manga, which does not drag much at all, and are therefore fans of the anime because it's the manga in motion. Pretty much any long-format anime based on an ongoing manga is subject to SOME form of stretching.


Oh, I realize that, but compare Naruto to Inuyasha, a series of roughly comparable length, on this point. Inuyasha's anime version has been accused (with some justification) of being repetitive after a certain point, but it rarely stretches stories out and certainly nowhere near to the degree that Naruto does.

Admittedly, some of that difference can be attributed to basic construction. Inuyusha has typically consisted of 1-3 episode stories loosely connected under very broad story arcs, while Naruto seems to favor longer and more involved stories.
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Oh, I realize that, but compare Naruto to Inuyasha, a series of roughly comparable length, on this point. Inuyasha's anime version has been accused (with some justification) of being repetitive after a certain point, but it rarely stretches stories out and certainly nowhere near to the degree that Naruto does.


It's a matter of preference. You're right that Inu is easier tostretch because their number of long story arcs is lower, and smaller arcs are easier to wedge in, whereas Naruto arcs tend to last 15-40 episodes, and wedging completely original content anywhere other than between those arcs is difficult at best.

I don't think Naruto would benefit from what Inu has though. When padding out a series, you can either stretch the individual episodes so that the weekly episode is of as close to an equal amount of content as a 22 page weekly manga chapter as possible, or you can insert a bunch of pointless episodes that don't bring the series anywhere. Or both.

Best case scenario, you get something like Bleach, in which you get a filler arc that many people can't tell even is a filler arc, since it's designed and likely plotted by the mangaka and is of much higher quality than most filler material. Inu does it by inserting massive amounts of random demon encounters that are generally rather dull. One Piece does it by combining a little bit of episode stretching with a little bit of "arc stretching" (adding a few extra plot threads to an existing arc, such as the extra 4 episodes of the Davyback Arc), and a little bit of filler episodes, usually no more than 10 back to back.

It's just a given when you have a 22 minute show chasing a 22 page manga that could usually be animated to take five minutes or less. None of those solutions are artistically the best thing for the show, but apparently at least some of them are necessary to the financially stability of the show, so I really don't think Naruto's method is much worse than anyone elses' (although I really do with that they had higher production values through the recent filler arcs).
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LydiaDianne wrote:
HitokiriShadow wrote:
I've only seen the TV episodes (and read the volume 1 manga that came with the DVD vol 1+box; it is heavily condensed and not very good) and I'm positive those aren't really Eureka's children. They are almost certainly abandoned/orphaned children and Eureka is a surrogate mother to them.


I've seen only the TV episodes, but I agree with you.

This is a part from Newtype USA On-line

Quote:
These first few episodes feature Renton trying to find his place among Gekkostate’s motley crew, ranging from a world-class air-surfer and his conniving girlfriend to Eureka’s “children”—whose existence rocks Renton’s world, since he’s (naturally) nurturing a crush on the pilot.


For the entire article just in case I'm wrong -

http://www.newtype-usa.com/reviews/index.php?itemid=252#more


They will explain about the "children" in the next few episodes.
You'll definitely find out if they are Eureka's children or not. Very Happy
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