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Tenchi
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:48 pm
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Call me a dreamer, but I still think it's a question of "when" and not "if" regarding the prospect of Sailor Stars getting licensed, though I'm sure that, if it is licensed, it will be for direct-to-DVD release only and they won't even attempt to dub it with a children's television airing in mind (except maybe on YTV, and, outside chance, the Funimation Channel, if that actually gets anywhere).
Though I've seen a good chunk of Sailor Stars (some of it with a Polish-language announcer talking over the Japanese dialogue), and I honestly think the case that it's "too controversial for television" is a bit overstated. Problematic, yes, but Sailor Moon S was similarly problematic and they were able to cover up the bulk of the problematic content with creative dubbing (and they snipped out some of the religious imagery from the television airings).
Even if it takes several more years, Sailor Moon's too big a franchise not to get some kind of revivial in North America. (And, while Toei's own domestic distribution arm seems to be dead, on the outside chance that it's just dormant, I'd figure that Sailor Moon would play a strong role in their future plans, if they have any plans.)
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RodimusBen
Joined: 16 Oct 2005
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Location: Harrisonburg, VA
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:34 pm
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Sorry, but I think you're a dreamer. Sailor Moon may have contributed a lot to anime's popularity in the US-- mainly because of the timing and the fact that it provided counter-programming dispelling the idea that all anime was ultraviolent pornography or dorky boys' shows-- but it's not the kind of franchise like Gundam that will continue to have legs for years and years. Unfortunately, I think it's dead.
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topleka
Joined: 24 Sep 2005
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:40 pm
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Sailor Maddie Mouse wrote: |
Jerseymilk wrote: |
Ongaku_no_tenshi wrote: |
Anthony P wrote: |
Quote: | And finally for this week, Sara Smith really poured her heart and soul into this one:
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I'm wondering if this girl mistook the Creation Station contest for an actual talent-search contest, or if she included those blurbs about being serious to make her entry seem all the more cliche. If the latter is the case, that's actually pretty clever. |
My guess is that she is getting her hopes up and wishing for something that is unlikely to happen. I think she was serious with her wishes in that entry. That's the impression I felt when I read her words. |
Nah, I disagree with that. I didn't get that impression at all when I read her entry. I think she was being sarcastic and tying the fact that people writing into Zac claiming to have an "original" and "great" idea for a new manga/anime, started the idea for the contest in the first place. I loved her sketches by the way, they're really good. |
took the words exactly out of my mouth |
Hi! Um...third entry person is me. I crafted my entry to look like a real submission because I noticed that a lot of people who submitted ideas often wanted some famous person or whatever to take the idea themselves, instead of doing it on their own. I tried to make the entire entry sound like a hopeful, idealistic, but misinformed kid. I'm glad to see that it was well-received.
Patachu wrote: |
Gauss wrote: | 3. Why do I keep reading Meganekko-hime in the third entry? |
The heroine of the story is really a glasses-wearing catgirl. (Yes, I'd tweak with the character design a little) |
Haha. Another part of the 'misinformed kid' I was trying to portray. I took a common Japanese pun 'Mega Neko' and used it without fully understanding it's double meaning ('megane-ko'). Hikaru is specifically not wearing glasses because the creator of the story doesn't know what megane means.
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HitokiriShadow
Joined: 09 May 2005
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:42 pm
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Nagisa wrote: |
Gauss wrote: | 2. What's so controversial about Turn A Gundam? Laura Rola? |
99% of it is the Gundam's design, which moved the trademark Gundam "V-fin" down from the forehead to the chin and gave it a more curved appearance, giving the suggestion of a Mario-esque moustache. Personally, I think it looks fine, as the entire suit has a more organic and "futuristic" feel to it than previous Gundams. |
I've seen Turn-A, thought it was an awesome series, and I *STILL* hate the Turn-A's design. And it's the overall design, not just the mustache.
Quote: | Other reasons do exist, though. Mainly the fact that instead of being a "burning shounen war story" like most previous (and following) Gundam series were, Turn-A was much mroe heavily centered around characters and character development. And then there's the "Turn-A Bang" theory about how (from Turn-A's perspective, at least), all previously detached Gundam timelines are tied together as one, giant "Dark History" story thread that finally culminates with Turn-A.
But...mostly it's the moustache, as ridiculous and petty and shallow as that sounds. |
I'd say the spoiler part is a rather controversial.
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I really hope Sailor Moon gets some uber release someday with each season getting some limited edition box set. Or something like the new release Macross is getting. It's unlikely, but I can keep hoping.
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Jerseymilk
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:55 pm
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Tenchi wrote: |
Though I've seen a good chunk of Sailor Stars (some of it with a Polish-language announcer talking over the Japanese dialogue), |
What is it with Poland and always doing that to the anime they show there?
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Tenchi
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:30 pm
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It's just a relic from the Communist era that endured, possibly because it's far cheaper to "dub" them that way than it is to actually hire actors.
I also saw Friends dubbed the same way (on Polish language satellite TV, which I watched in my grandmother's house in Wimbledon).
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MsCongeniality
Joined: 30 Dec 2004
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:45 pm
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Gauss wrote: | 1. What do people think Zac should do for summer?
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Oh, that one's easy...the new Doctor Who gets its US premiere next week. That'll run at least through May.
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WesW
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:14 pm
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MsCongeniality wrote: |
Gauss wrote: | 1. What do people think Zac should do for summer?
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Oh, that one's easy...the new Doctor Who gets its US premiere next week. That'll run at least through May. |
Zac, you just ruined my day with the BSG delay info. (well, ruined it a little, anyway.) Hopefully this means the show is such a huge hit that Sci-fi is upping the budget and making new sets, etc. (and maybe adding a zero to the number of people in the fleet, to make all the press and political stuff more believeable)
As to what Zac should do, I have an idea. In recognition of the number of arguments that Zac gets into on the forums, we should start a brand new contest: Pull Zac's Chain!
Contestants would compose a paragraph designed to push one or more of Zac's many buttons, be it annoying questions, criticisms of ANN, etc., and the one which elicits the longest and/or most heated response from Zac would be the winner.
This contest could easily last all summer. (Please note that this is all in good humor... though not entirely inconceivable.)
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Key
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:50 pm
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I'm with Zac on the BSG thing - especially after just finishing watching the season finale. There's a good reason why American TV critics rated it amongst the best shows of 2005 and why it's one of only two non-anime series I watch on a regular basis.
Oh, well. Hopefully the newest incarnation of Dr. Who won't suck; I so dearly loved all the previous ones. (Say what you will about the cheesy special effects, but it was usually well-acted and some of the most clever and forward-thinking sci-fi material ever made. Many story themes which nowadays pop up in live-action and anime sci-fi first appeared decades earlier on Dr. Who.)
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Gauss
Joined: 22 Oct 2004
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:49 am
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HitokiriShadow wrote: |
I've seen Turn-A, thought it was an awesome series, and I *STILL* hate the Turn-A's design. And it's the overall design, not just the mustache. |
It was the gourd, wasn't it? A bald mustachioed Gundam we can live with but a pilot sitting in a gourd that can take off.
I'll just thank the stars they didn't try this on Gundam Seed.
WesW wrote: | As to what Zac should do, I have an idea. In recognition of the number of arguments that Zac gets into on the forums, we should start a brand new contest: Pull Zac's Chain! |
Nice one! For Zac's delectation I'll immediate start composing a paean of praise to that most excellent anime show Fushigi Yuugi.
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HitokiriShadow
Joined: 09 May 2005
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:10 am
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Gauss wrote: |
HitokiriShadow wrote: |
I've seen Turn-A, thought it was an awesome series, and I *STILL* hate the Turn-A's design. And it's the overall design, not just the mustache. |
It was the gourd, wasn't it? A bald mustachioed Gundam we can live with but a pilot sitting in a gourd that can take off.
I'll just thank the stars they didn't try this on Gundam Seed. |
Well, I guess that was another part of the design I didn't like, but it was the design as a whole.
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Tenchi
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:37 am
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Key wrote: |
Oh, well. Hopefully the newest incarnation of Dr. Who won't suck; I so dearly loved all the previous ones. (Say what you will about the cheesy special effects, but it was usually well-acted and some of the most clever and forward-thinking sci-fi material ever made. Many story themes which nowadays pop up in live-action and anime sci-fi first appeared decades earlier on Dr. Who.) |
The first two episodes were obviously "practice" episodes, and there is one "parody" episode that I have a feeling a lot of people are going to hate, but, overall, it was a very effective balance of sci-fi, drama, and comedy.
Too bad Christopher Eccleston didn't want to sign on for a second season, because I thought he was "FANTASTIC!"
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vickeyv
Joined: 31 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:28 pm
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I have read here that DVDs cost around $60 in Japan and etc. What i have noticed is that people should also note that Japan has a very strong economy and then there people have that sort of money to shell out on DVDs.
Why aren't Anime DVds also marketed in other regions rather than just America. Most of Europe, South East Asia, Pan Pacific has millions of anime fans, but i suppose its obvious that there aren't gonna be much of anime licencing companies there.
Why can't Japanese anime producers market DVDs Directly at subsadized prices in these regions. Subsadized prices are required since the average pay a person gets in most other countries is only fraction of what a person get in Japan or say the united states. Why do Anime studios have to rely so much on Licencing companies?
The first thing that comes to my mind is reverse import and what else obstructs them from selling good original anime, making profit, helping the industry and sparing every one living there the horrible quality fansubs possess.
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.Sy
Joined: 11 Mar 2005
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:51 pm
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Some of the problem with licencing anime in Eastern Asia is the bootlegging. I'm not an expert on this, but a legit DVD is going to cost considerably more than many bootlegs, so I suppose many companies would find the legitimate anime biz over there unprofitable. As for other parts of the world, anime is slowly but surely reaching there. Part of the reason might be because there hasn't been much concrete proof that anime/manga will sell very well in a particular region, even if it does have quite fanbase. I don't think a Japanese company can actually lower the price, maybe that's not how it works. Usually, the North American companies make bids (please do correct me if I'm wrong) and sometimes companies get outbid on some series. Other times, the Japanese company's asking price is too high for any of the companies here for a while. If I'm right and bidding is the way licencing works, I would agree that charging a North American price for South America is not going to work. But anime is business too, although I'm not sure what harm would occur bymarketing anime at a lower price to a country that doesn't have any. Anime studios need money from licencing because the amount they get from each individual DVD sale (from anywhere, not just Japan) may not cover all of the costs of production. What usually makes an anime a money-grabber is licencing and merchandise sales, I think.
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