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NEWS: Teen Arrested for Stabbing Teacher With Pen for Confiscating Manga

Are you one of those cranks who insist that AD(H)D doesn't exist? Because that is patently insulting to those of us who actualy have to do deal with it every day.

Though I agree, at no point were the whole details released. We do not know if a struggle occurred prior to the stabbing, nor do we know what all was said. Also, we do not know if the teacher had intended to give back the manga after the confiscation. It could be a situation with a hostile teacher and/or hostile student. I understand that people do snap under pressure and/or in the heat of the moment.

Chagen46 wrote:

Are you one of those cranks who insist that AD(H)D doesn't exist? Because that is patently insulting to those of us who actualy have to do deal with it every day.

Chagen, drop the persecution complex. That most diagnoses for the ailment are handed out to kids that are simply ill-fitted to the prevailing school model is true regardless of whether either one has an independent existence.

And this is why you should hit your kids more

Many teachers are jerks, so stop white knighting for 'em as an entire profession, cause the bit about staff confiscating property and not returning it afterwards is dead right. I'm not saying there aren't good teachers but WTF as a profession they suck the same as with other authority figures.

Did school staff do anything to stop kids bullying one another when I was there? No. They didn't do their job but what kind of wage did they get for teaching?

There's a lot of goody two shoes on this forum, I stabbed a teacher with a pen once, but it wasn't for confiscation of property though, they were just pissing me off. (Confiscation of minor items was funny, I turned it into a show in front of the class, made the teacher look small and ridiculous like most such 'authority figures' usually are.)

I guess to have made him want to stab someone ten times, she must have really made him blow his top.

I am a strong believer in being accountable for your actions and the kid should be punished accordingly.

Lastly my personal opinion on the school system is that it is doing just fine. I say this because I believe everybody should be given the same opportunities so therefore putting 30 or so students into a classroom and giving them the same lesson is the best way to accomplish this in my opinion.

If even one person in the class can succeed then that shows there was nothing wrong with the teacher and that the other students just didn't work hard enough.

"Equality" is mis- and overused these days(it's worth noting that "all men are created equal" was talking solely about equality before the law). Human beings aren't identical and each one has individual needs, which need to be taken into account(and I've experienced this first hand training people on the job). Instruction simply doesn't scale terribly well and with 30 kids an instructor's pretty much limited to targeting the median, which impairs the brighter pupils from making the most of their academic abilities and forces the slower ones to play catch up all the time.

No, generally a 97% failure rate indicates a rather severe problem. If only one kid out of thirty succeeds, he probably could've learned it all on his own anyway; the rest will see their drive to learn suppressed from the bad experience, which is a far greater travesty than simple failure.

Unfortunately, Japanese Jr High Schools at least, have two rather silly rules.

1. The students have the right to attend class. So, no matter what they're doing, we can't kick them out. Also, there's nothing like detention.
2. No matter what, a student will pass through the grades and graduate. Even if he/she does ZERO work.

Think about that for a moment. You're 14 years old, in school. Someone tells you you can talk, skip class, basically do whatever you want, and not only *not* get in trouble for it, but you're going to graduate anyway? ....Yeah. So, this year we've got a lot of bastards. I consider it a good day when they all decide to skip, or put on their headphones, head for the back, and go to sleep.

Unless anything has changed in the last few years, the Japanese education system does not make it easy for teachers to deal with problem students; they have no way of disciplining them. To quote Azrael:

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Unfortunately, Japanese Jr High Schools at least, have two rather silly rules. 1. The students have the right to attend class. So, no matter what they're doing, we can't kick them out. Also, there's nothing like detention. 2. No matter what, a student will pass through the grades and graduate. Even if he/she does ZERO work. Think about that for a moment. You're 14 years old, in school. Someone tells you you can talk, skip class, basically do whatever you want, and not only *not* get in trouble for it, but you're going to graduate anyway? ....Yeah. So, this year we've got a lot of bastards. I consider it a good day when they all decide to skip, or put on their headphones, head for the back, and go to sleep.

Mental health in Japan is also a different kettle of fish to over here. Putting aside ADHD, if he had even a mild form of Autism I could imagine him reacting badly in this circumstance so it is not clear cut.

What happened:
Kid with violent tendencies, possession issues and low self control assaults a teacher for offending him.

How people will interpret:
Manga makes children violent sociopaths.