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HitokiriShadow
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Yeah, that's about the gist of it. Considering the intelligence he displayed originally, it shouldn't be that suprising.
I think they just deactivate the account and IP ban them if they come back. I would imagine IP blocking is a pain compared to just deactivating accounts. \/ Yeah, on hindsight, I probably shouldn't have posted this, but I can't figure out how to delete it now. Last edited by HitokiriShadow on Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:49 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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2Real
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........i thought this was a thread about Naruto. not bout baning people.
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Fui
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I skimmed through the threads (but read the OP of course) and just wanna say that Naruto is highly overrated for its material in my opinion. They know they have such a massive pool of fans that it doesn't matter how pathetic some of their episodes get (besides, it's aimed at a younger audience that isn't critical of the series like most of us are. When I went to Japan this summer and stayed at my cousin's house there were all these Naruto commercials during the Naruto episodes and they were all TOTALLY geared toward like 8-13 year olds). I hear the episodes are going to get good in 16? episodes when the anime starts following the manga again (but don't quote me on that). Frequently I just stare blankly after the (filler) episode ends and think "...why did I just watch that?"
About the "Naruto vs. Sasuke" battle... It's the best battle in the entire series (163 eps?) I saw that and was like omgholy????narutopwns! Then never saw that kind of quality again. That episode is like movie quality for some reason compared to everything else (except Rock Lee gets some pretty cool battle scenes). I still watch the series because it's okay and entertaining at points. Don't get me wrong it's not bad but it's highly overrated. It's just difficult to keep a series interesting for 150+ episodes (as we can see from Pokemon which needs to die unless it has already...). Last edited by Fui on Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:38 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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CyberViper
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One of my friends got me into watching Naruto...and it was the first anime I've watched in a long long long time! And I got hooked pretty quickly.
I was very pleased with the development of the series until the recent filler episodes. I'm assuming it will pick up basically where it left off after they finish. I don't see this series another DBZ. I think it's been labled that after it got dubbed and put on CN. (Granted I haven't watched the dubbing...i'm too scared too) It's a long series...but I recommend watching it. Fights don't take 20 episodes like they do in DBZ, and it much more fast paced, but it does start to get somewhat repetative, but I think that can be overlooked. |
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2Real
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i actuly never watched it on CTN....i only watch fan-sub anime
and once it hit the fillers i stoped watching it. and yes i do have to admit that Sauske vs Naurto fight was a very well done sceen (the only one of its kind in the entier show that i have seen). to me i can find better shows to watch other then Naruto. and as far as me comparing it to DBZ...look at how events have unrolled and how their "Attacks" are. i will admit it is more fast paced and with that they have more filler eps then DBZ did, bcuz they drew out their fights. to me their are just 2many simalarites between the 2 for me. i feel as though when id turn on Naruto id be looking at a new DBZ series. |
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CyberViper
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Well, Naruto does have the potential to become another DBZ look-a-like. One thing about Naruto is that they don't constantly fight in every single episode. There are many intermissions in between fights, and events leading up to the actual battle.
Plus, in DBZ, (maybe i've just simply forgotten, it's been a long time.) It seemed all they did was fight. For months on end. And that was it. And the most I could ever get out of a DBZ plot was "They're trying to destroy the world, save the world." For everyone... Maybe I just viewed the show differently than a lot of people. I was in love with DBZ for a while, but I slowly grew out of it due to it's repetativeness...as which might be happening with the Naruto fillers. I hope when this anime gets back on track they all know tons of cool moves and the plot picks up and develops even further, otherwise it does have the potential to become another DBZ-like anime. I suppose we also should consider the widespread view of the show. If enough people THINK it will become, or is, another DBZ-like anime...then in everyone's mind it will be. I also don't ever remember hearing anything bad about Naruto whatsoever until it was dubbed and put on CN...CN is the devil! 
Fansubs all the way! |
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2Real
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that is what happend alot in DBZ as i rember, go off train a lil bit, get stronger fight save the world, repet till end. and that is basicly wut i can see happening in the future, the basis of this has already been happening over the time the show has been on. the biggest difference is that they have made it more suttle in the Naruto series then they did in DBZ. but in the end i can see the same effect happening. the one thing i think that Naruto has going for it is that when, (hopefuly) when Sauske is saved or killed the show will end breifly after or at that point. if it were continue on then it would be a DBZ. so basicly as long as naruto ends shortly it wont be as bad as it could be(but i dont think it can get much worse) |
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Berselius
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2Real, if you honestly don't like Naruto that much, then don't watch it. If you don't watch it anymore, then why are you on a thread thats about praising Naruto? You may think its immature or for little kids, but plenty of older people watch it. I can respect that you don't like Naruto, but you're beggining to sound degrading towards the people who DO like Naruto which is beginning to get on my nerves. Can't people just like what they like, without having others point fingers and laugh?
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2Real
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i have never said one thing twards people that do watch Naruto. im just saying that the show could have been done better imo. that is all.
and actuly i dont watch Naruto anymore, i just watched it to see wut it was about formyself. if i didn't watch it and i was making these coments, then id be disapointed in myself for being so narrow minded. oh and if u can find a point were i said something about the people watching it then please Quote it for me. |
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pingo
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Well I for one think you are wrong in your DBZ comparrison. I feel something like Yo gi oh and pokemon and InYusha belongs in this ball with DBZ. Not Naruto. I think the humor in Naruto is amazing. Just 10 minutes with Gai-Sensei and Fuzzy eyebrows(lee) Im dying laughing. It's funny when naruto screws up a mission because he accidently farts. Look at Ichigo from Bleach - There you have your tall slim, strong hero to save the world and preach about morals. To me that is predictable and inspiring. Naruto is a moron who wants attention. He is ugly as he is stupid. For these reasons, I think he is appealing. But sure... Sakura can surely fit into the way of "useless girl" and Sasuke is just emo boy. I understand and AGREE with Naruto going down hill after the sasuke fight. The creators have actually said, that hole season 6(which is hopefully nearing its end now) will be fillers. Everything post episode 135 have been filler. After that apparently a lot of things will happen. More about Orcihmaru, the 7 shinobi samurai, some characters will die and stuff. I think the point of these fillers were to show the viewers, that being a bad ass ninja aint easy. When Naruto wants to learn the move "RASENGAN"(or something like that) they actually use 4 episodes were he has to teach it. 4 episodes were he is being trained by closet pervert. If you go back and think about it - The hole series, right from episode 1, were naruto and sasuke first meet each other in their classroom to 135 has tension and a competitive fight build up. It's amazing how the creators actually manifested their skills, and their reasons behind it. The allways natural talented sasuke, becomes weaker than the idiot Naruto. I think Naruto has a lot of interesting grown up themes. Surely the animation is less realistic, more colorful and more unrealistic than Bleach, but personally I feel it just gives it more personality, uniqeness and a sense of character. If I look at a painting I would rather look at something crazy unrealistic with tons of beautiful colors, than something photo realistic like a boring tree. Some of the interesting themes in Naruto is defintely(I think) in the other characters. In most anime it seems that the story is focused on a certain branch of characters. With naruto its like its trying to make you know the entire Konoha village. Thats also(probably) another reason for the fillers. In these last episodes they have introduced much more of characters like Ten-Ten, Neji, Rock Lee, Shino, Hinata. I think Naruto is very ambitious. I think it's trying to build up a large world, with tons of characters and techniques. Unlike DBZ I don't think the Naruto team wants the viewers to feel... "wow thats a surprise. Now they just learned another repetitive technique with a crazy animation". I think they want to feel that the moves the characters learn are really hard. The theme for one of the bad guys, Orcihmaru is also about eternal youth, being young forever so he can learn all the techniques in the world and be more powerful than anyone. But other themes are there. Like Neji's and the hole discussion about nobility and talented and fate. Or Rock Lee who desires and belives in hard work. Or Hinata who constantly underestimates herself. Or Shimaraku who always think its tiresome. I think the characters of Naruto is very diverse. Like Bleach. Which is cool. Both in look, skills and peformance. I really like Naruto. I dont know if its one of the best anime I have ever seen, and I do agree with the fillers in hole season 6 being insane. The movie was also beautiful animated but also just a filler. But despite this I really like it and think it has the heart, humor, action, story and characters on the right place. I think its a equal to Bleach. And then it just comes down to preference. Ichigo versus Naruto(coolest), Sakura vs Rukia(cutest) and so on. |
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Zork
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I really wanted to like Naruto. I watched Naruto up to the episode where they were escorting a bridge builder to his home. They get attacked by some super rogue ninja, who in turn is attacked by some young tracker ninja. When the tracker ninja took out the rogue, Naruto threw a hissy-fit about the tracker ninja and Naruto being the same age, yet the tracker ninja was much powerful, and he kept whining about it.
Up until that point I always found the character Naruto annoying, but that was the final straw. Naruto wants respect but he does little to earn it. He defaces property, disrespects those around him, plays childish jokes on people, is a complete slacker when it comes to education and is only a team player when it suits him. And his constant saying "Believe it!" makes me want to strangle the writers. Maybe Naruto's attitude gets better later in the series. I just don't have the patience to find out. Also, why is everybody angry at Naruto for having a fox demon inside him? It's not his fault the leaders of his village were to weak to totally defeat and kill the demon. If anything, everybody should be upset with the wimps who couldn't defeat the demon, not Naruto. |
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Key
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I find these comments about how "Naruto doesn't have endless battles like DBZ" to be rather amusing. I'm watching this as it's broadcast on CN (they just did the episode where spoiler[the fox demon first gets out last night]) and so far I'm seeing a very similar pattern: long blocks of reviews of events from previous episodes and battle scenes drawing out interminably while characters posture, repeat themselves, and comment about their moves and those of others. And a good chunk of the "plot development" time involves training to one degree or another - all just like in DBZ. The use of all the fancy jutsu isn't much different in actual function from all the powers the DBZ characters used, either, nor is the balance of action, melodrama, and comedy - although Naruto doesn't get quite as raunchy as DBZ did at times.
And on a different issue, does Sakura ever do anything besides just stand around on guard, moon over Sousuke, and carry on her internal dialogue? (Which admittedly is one of the more amusing parts of the show.) And on a different issue #2, anyone else notice that the Naruto/Sousuke kissing scene which was flashed away from in the one early episode did quite obviously appear in the collage of Naruto/Sousuke images in last night's episode? Gotta love inconsistent editing. . . 
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Dranxis
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Well, I'm not sure about the anime, but personally from a manga reader's standpoint I don't find DBZ and Naruto to be all that similar. The battles, all save the more climatic ones, are very concise, though there is a bit of posturing and dialogue exchange about this or that character's techniques. It tends to get to the point a lot faster than DBZ did though.
As for the training arcs, I thought those were alot less annoying than DBZ's. Naruto only has one actual training arc if I recall, it is when he is spoiler[training with Jiraiya to master the Rasengan]. The other training arc wasn't even shown, they just jumped ahead into the future. Most of the character development occurs during particularly heated battles, when characters have to make big decisions, or rethink their ideals. As for Sakura, yeah, she doesn't do much, but she does undergo some major development over the course of the series. But it isn't until after spoiler[the aforementioned time jump, after she became Tsunade's apprentice] that she becomes nearly as powerful a fighter as Naruto. |
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Ohoni
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Not as far as the anime's gotten, no, although she does eventually stop being around as much. Eventually she does get better, but the show hasn't gotten there yet. BTW, the similarities that you point out to DBZ are much more an artifact of it being a long-run shonen anime based on a currently running manga, and they feel the need to stretch out the series so that it doesn't catch up to the manga. The anime does suffer from extended recapping and pauses in the action that are absent from the manga, but after a while I just tended to blank those portions out. |
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HitokiriShadow
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Accidentally farting is 'amazing humor'? Honestly, most of the humor in Naruto just doesn't appeal to me. Although I'm sure it's great for the target audience. I'll take the Bleach humor, thanks.
Predictable? You must not have watched much of Bleach. And I must of missed Ichigo preaching morals. And as of episode 60, the world is not in danger. Naruto, on the other hand, continually goes on about his 'way of the ninja' and never giving up, protecting friends, etc.
Naruto is the embodiment of everything I hate in a shonen hero. I am desperately waiting for him to grow up.
Outside of the filler episodes, this was the most boring and worthless part of the series. One episode to learn an attack is acceptable, I can even take two. Three or more is just too many.
She does a little bit in the next story arc, but not much. Minor spoilers, safe to read, but tagged just in case:spoiler[She protects Sasuke and Naruto while they are unconscious and has a one-on-one fight with Ino] At the end of the most recent (non-filler) story arc in Japan and the first few filler-arc, Sakura begins training under someone, so she MAY actually do something once the story starts up again. |
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